• Dessalines
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      Last time I was in Wisconsin (maybe 10 years ago), there were 30 racks for like $8-12 dollars.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    piss beer tho trans-sad

    come back to me when they got beer so dark it tastes like chocolate at 67 cents, then i will book a flight to china immediately

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    292 days ago

    An I dumb or is this the sort of thing that is explained away with an exchange rate? How long would an average Chinese worker have to work to earn 4.9 RMB?

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      The average annual earnings in China is $16,300

      If you normalise this against the US which is $47,960

      This is roughly 3x

      So multiply the price of that beer by 3 and I think you have a fair rough comparison. Any beer that costs 2 dollars for 1.5L? Probably not.

      China’s grocery basket is cheaper than the US.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        192 days ago

        And Chinese workers pay less for housing and healthcare as well. I would reckon that transportation is probably also a lot cheaper since they have access to dirt-cheap public transit and are not expected to own battleship-sized cars. Utilities seems ridiculously cheap as well.

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      My back-of-the-envelope math says it somewhere around 30 minutes of minimum wage (minimum, most are making more than that). A shitty 40 of beer in the USA can be as cheap as $3, which is also around 30 minutes of minimum wage (but most people are making more than that). That’s still a little less than 1.5L, but it’s as close to an apples-to-apples comparison as you can get.

      This does demonstrate the vast difference in PPP between US and Chinese goods. Beer is definitely part of the “basket of goods” that you can get for a much cheaper price in China.

      • MF_COOM [he/him]
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        62 days ago

        Yeah that’s what my math gives too - if you factor in the alcohol content difference between this and a 40 of malt liquor it seems to shake out pretty similarly.

      • baaaaaaaaaaah [comrade/them]
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        Red Star baijiu is more efficient. It’s like 50% and you can get a half a liter for like $2.50 USD.

        It is genuinely one of the most disgusting liquids I’ve ever tasted though.

        • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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          The western palate is unprepared for the taste of baijiu. It’s completely perpendicular to anything I had tried before.

      • haha, reminds me of when I realized I could buy 2-buck chuck by the case at trader Joe’s, so I could have an entire bottle of wine for like $2.30 or whatever it was.

        I got pretty wrecked on the front porch every day for a while. felt classy too.

    • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]
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      low alcohol beers were often brewed and consumed throughout history before modern plumbing and sanitation made clean water widely and readily available, and sugary flavored soda water became popular

        • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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          112 days ago

          Depending on where you are a light beer means different things. For example the US and Canada it means low calorie, in Germany it means low alcohol (but not alcohol free).

          Session ales are also typically in the 3% range.

            • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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              Bud Light in the US is 4.2%, Michelob Light 4.3%, Coors Light 4.2% - in the UK Bud Light is only 3.4%, Tennants Light 3.5%, Machester Brewery Light 3.4%. You can remove alcohol to lower the calories, but in Europe Light distinctly refers to the alcohol, not the calories.

          • ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]
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            92 days ago

            In the US you can certainly find low alcohol beers like in the 3% range, but they’re very rare, you’d have to go looking for them specifically.

            • rubber_chicken [he/him]
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              32 days ago

              I was going to cite Oklahoma’s liquor laws limiting cold beer sold in grocery and convenience stores to 3.2%, but they’ve since updated that to 15% (as it applies to wine as well).

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          52 days ago

          In Denmark the low-alcohol light beer has been almost completely replaced by non-alcoholic beer. People who want the beer without the buzz prefers no alcohol at all.

  • Keep in mind, Chinese salaries are significantly lower than US ones. In these kinds of price comparisons, Chinese goods are often cheaper, but not by as drastic a margin as perceived.

    • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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      it seems like wages are usually 1/3 to 1/2 of those of US workers and prices are 1/4 to 1/5 of US prices. So much cheaper, but definitely not as much as looking at the price alone.

        • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          52 days ago

          So…say I sell my house for $100k can I love in china on a modest budget for 10-15 years? Will they even let me as a foriegner? I’m gay I promise there will be no multiplying.

          • China is notoriously rigid on immigration. Only 10,000 permanent residencies are issued per year (the US issues around a million) and the only way a normal person without close family ties can get in is through making a series of large investments, or holding a high ranking position in a Chinese company for 3 years. So probably not.

            • @rigor@lemmygrad.ml
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              That might be misleading. It’s pretty easy to get a work visa, which you can use to stay indefinitely, got to renew it though. Getting permanent residence is harder to qualify for, but if you’ve been in China for a while it’s easier. lots of people just stay in China very long periods of time on work visas.

            • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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              22 days ago

              Would someone know if it’s possible to get paperwork from China if you’re married to a Chinese national who is overseas?

              Because, if so, I’m gonna be looking for a wife.