• @porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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    422 months ago

    We can debate the tactical merits of this or that individual action forever. Was it worth it? Was it the right time? Was it the right target? What could they have done better? What’s not debatable to me is that it accomplished infinitely more than a hundred lifetimes spent posting on social media, writing to the imperial congress, or holding signs at permitted peaceful protests. There are 2 fewer people engaged in the extermination of the Palestinian people today than there were yesterday, and the world is better for it.

    • Anarcho-Bolshevik
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      222 months ago

      Whether this shooting was a good idea or not, everybody needs to understand that extreme measures like these are the inevitable consequences of a severely neglected situation. After witnessing the disappointing results of nonviolent tactics, sooner or later somebody was going to lash out in a desperate attempt to control the situation.

      There are plenty of other situations where carelessly allowing pressure to build up only results in worse outcomes. If the stench of an oven’s overcooked food does not get your attention, sooner or later the house will catch on fire. Why should we not apply the same understanding here?

      I’ll be unsurprised if we see similar vigilante actions in the news later this year. This is the price that the ruling class must pay for leaving the lower classes with so few options.

  • @supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
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    252 months ago

    The original sin in the west is being born of brown/ black skin and/ or advocating for them as equals. The repression was coming anyways. Pacifist abolitionists tried to abolish slavery for a long time and in the end what actually ended it was violence.the pacifist abolitionists lost their lives a lot of the time in lynchings despite advocating for non violence. The empire doesn’t play nice if you do. This isn’t a call for violence, it is just an evaluation of history.

  • @SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml
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    172 months ago

    Well the people at the top, everywhere in the west, are already using this as a way to further beat down on pro Palestine protests.

    Adventurism bad.

    • 小莱卡
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      2 months ago

      They would’ve done it either way. More repression leads to more civil unrest, more civil unrest in the imperial core is good in my book.

    • @footfaults@lemmygrad.ml
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      382 months ago

      People have tried protesting. Writing articles, and boycotting.

      The state has responded with violence.

      You can say that adventurism is bad, but what else is there?

      • Dialectical Idealist
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        232 months ago

        The alternative to individual action is collective action. Not that I’m expressing a personal opinion either way…

        • @footfaults@lemmygrad.ml
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          202 months ago

          The things I mentioned that are non violent, are collective action, but it doesn’t seem to be that effective. That’s why you see people deciding to do violence

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      342 months ago

      They would always find something or someone to use an excuse.

      Also just after IOF shoots at Diplomats.

    • @MarxOverflow@lemmygrad.ml
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      The more they suppress the protests, the more legitimacy they lose.

      The Hind Rajab Foundation can only hold people to account when they can be arrested for war crimes. It isn’t as though the Washington DC PD would be willing to arrest war criminals.

      The oligarchy has made peaceful revolution impossible.

    • @Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml
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      Bad when MLs do it instead of collective action, yes. For those of us able to organize or do mutual aid, things like that. Not possible for everyone, especially in a place as fragmented as the US. I do not blame this fellow for what he did, I blame the US for driving him to this, and I blame the US for whatever happens afterwards.

    • Horse {they/them}
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      the trick to successful adventurism is to hit someone or something that the vast majority of the public already hate, like a health insurance ceo or shinzo abe
      i do not give a fuck about the low-level “israeli” bureaucrat schlubs that got shot but they weren’t a particularly good target tbh

      though obviously as an ML i think adventurism in general is a bad idea, sometimes direct action does indeed get the goods

    • KrupskayaPraxis
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      242 months ago

      Collective action is better, but until that bears fruit adventurism can be useful sometimes

    • @Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
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      172 months ago

      Was this adventurism? Maybe this is the way to push the Palestine solidarity movement in the usa into the next phase of resistance. Maybe this man’s actions will open the path for collective discussions of future actions of this type. The taboo on even discussing violence wasn’t going to break itself.