• @turtlesareneat@discuss.online
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      Our neighborhood (business association but that’s downplayed) hosted their first Pride last year, made attempts at getting actual queer people involved this year, and then announced they were $20k in the hole due to sponsors pulling out. FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Everything about this is wrong. Pride is supposed to be COMMUNITY BASED. When sponsors pull out, we’re now having to scale back plans. As a local queer community-building non-profit, I’m having to pay money to this group to have a presence, and they want me to supply volunteers to work the main event… wtf is happening… they’ve inverted it

    • You might want to reread the post, because nothing about it implies straight people are in charge of pride. Only that the straight response to pride month tends to be empty celebratory phrases instead of recognizing how LGBTQ people are still being hurt.

      • @einlander@lemmy.world
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        I’m speaking of the people in general against pride/LGBT. If they actually believed what they preached then we would not be where we currently are.

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          Well, the people against pride are not the ones thinking love is love. They’re the ones thinking love is only right between a cis straight man and woman. This meme is directed at straight allies, not adversaries.

          • @grue@lemmy.world
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            Hi, “straight ally” here. The meme’s (and @einlander’s) intent was obvious and I’m not offended. Moreover, I would go so far as to say that anybody who does get offended was lying when they claimed to be an ally in the first place.

            Y’all have way better things to do than to try to white-knight for the already-privileged majority, LOL!

            • @angrystego@lemmy.world
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              Sure, I was not saying the meme is not ok, I was trying to correct eilander’s probable misunderstanding of who the meme is directed at. I was not evaluating the meme’s legitimacy.

  • It is rather a problem that pride allows cops, companies and rightwingers (as long as they profess to equally push down people) in their parades .

    I will show up once the bricks are back in fashion

    • @lazyViking@lemmy.world
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      Do you not want to include people from what you consider problematic to join in pride? That sounds like the opposite of the goal

  • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    This post reminded me it’s been a bit since I’ve done any volunteering; just emailed a local org that does concealed carry and gun safety courses for LGBT+ folks to see if they could use an extra hand. So, thanks for posting this!

    There’s only one effective way to handle a confrontation with a Nazi, and that requires you to be armed!

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    People do not care about other people. People are not empathetic.

    All people really want is validation, and for liberal, middle-class straight people, feeling validated means supporting a company that displays a rainbow for a week out of a year so they can say they’re not hateful bigots and thus feel validated.

    You all need to understand this, not so you can give up and be doomers, but so you can more effectively advocate for human rights. Knowing what dark, selfish dials and levers are set behind the average person’s values gives you the opportunity to find ways to get your better results without spinning in circles. Yes, their personal values on equality are selfish and hollow… but so are most values until they become so standard in society that the alternative becomes to shameful to contemplate. We’ve done this many times in history, but we lose progress the moment we expect people do to the right thing for its own sake.

    The right is great at leveraging people’s desire to be validated and accepted to further their own goals. Can YOU think of ways to make people feel a desperate, panicked need to support YOUR values? When we all start thinking like villains just a little we will have fewer villains in the world.

    ITT: naive children who think someone saying their demonstrably ineffective activism needs reworking, is actually advocating for right-wing ideology. We’re so cooked.

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      Of course this is downvoted, but you’re totally right. Most people are self interested and don’t really have values, including most of us for that matter. I was never transphobic, but I certianly started caring more after “hatching”

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    I don’t have time to bother with any of this when the USA is literally turning into Nazi Germany. This kind of thing is the least of my worries. I’ll worry about this stuff when your skin color being too dark doesn’t put you at risk of being disappeared off the streets any more.