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- world@quokk.au
Last week, top ICE officials ordered officers to increase arrests and to get “creative” in their methods, including trying to nab people the officers happen to encounter in what are known as “collateral arrests.” The orders come in the wake of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller setting a quota of 3,000 immigration arrests per day, along with a sharp rise in protests against the crackdown.
In Westbury, the HSI agents didn’t respond to the gathered crowd. After a few minutes, the agents drove away. A commotion erupted down the road, off-camera, and onlookers began rushing toward the corner.
One of the Nissans, carrying two of the HSI agents, had crashed into a black pickup truck that happened to be passing through the intersection. Three eyewitnesses told The Intercept that the agents’ car had sped away. Two of the witnesses believe the Nissan blew a stop sign, causing the crash. (Nassau County police referred questions about the accident to ICE, which did not respond to an inquiry.)
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ICE really does seem like the new SS. As a European it’s scary as fuck to watch the world’s most powerful state turn fascist.
As an American, the scariest part is how little most seem to care about it. Well, that and the fascism.
“That could never happen here!” — Most Americans.
“It might be happening here, but its only happening to the bad guys!”
Try being an American citizen with a history degree. I know where this leads, and I’m terrified.
I feel like my history teachers tried to warn us about this, but they couldn’t say it directly and most of us didn’t take the hint.
“Does history repeat itself?”
“Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it.”
What they’re really trying to get their students thinking is “do we learn from history?” And the answer is a big, fat, fuck no.
Okay but have you considered that you’re being a shrill alarmist commie?
Actually, I have considered that, wanting to avoid being the same kind of victim of partisan propaganda as stupid Conservatives. This is especially important to me, as I have been an Unaffiliated Independent since first registering to vote in 1977. It important to me to not succumb to the propaganda of either side.
My self-reflection has determined to my personal satisfaction that I am not shrill, I’m not an alarmist, and I’m not a commie. I have a history degree, 30 years of professional experience, and have closely watched the rise of extremist Conservatism since the mid-80s, so I am very comfortable offering my opinions with confidence. I don’t worry about acceptance from MAGA Nazi Traitors. I couldn’t care less about their treasonous, shallow, ignorant, violent, political opinions.
My education, knowledge, and experience has led me to believe that we are facing a divide in America as bad as the Civil War, and very possibly worse. The MAGAs are clearly taking their strategies from the Nazi Germany Playbook, and want to murder vast swathes of Americans. To recognize and warn others about it is not shrill, alarmist, or “commie,” and it is not lost on me that you are attempting to shame me into silence.
It won’t work. Indies like me aren’t afraid in the least of Cowardly Nazi Traitors like you. We know what you are up to, and we will stop you.
To see the Canadian government start pushing bills on immigration that are similar to those put in place to allow all this to happen in the US is terrifying as well. We voted in hopes of fending off this fascist takeover and yet here we are with Drumpfkins next door and our own “left” cooking the country.
The citizens of the world are under fire everywhere from fascism and even Nazism. We all need to stand up and fight back no matter where we live.
I was always facist if you weren’t white or straight
I really hope that’s a typo
I’m workshopping banners for the next RNC convention
“collateral arrests”= unconstitutional and kidnapping.
These fucking people are sick…
Cops aren’t people.
Yeah, they are. Dehumanization is not okay “if my side is doing it.”
I think you’re attacking the symptom rather than the disease.
And i think they chose inhumanity. To call them human would not only be an insult to us, but disregarding their own self identification and chosen identity. Imposing that identity against its will seems a violation of its autonomy.
“They chose inhumanity”
Jesus fucking Christ… You really think you have the high ground with this kind of thinking, don’t you?
Hate only breeds hate. When you dehumanize your enemies, you already lost.
And “anti-law enforcement agitators” = non-whites who don’t want their children kidnapped.
Sooo Federal officers get to flee scenes, guess insurance doesn’t matter anymore.
I watched most of the video clip. The agents all look kinda perplexed. As if they can’t understand that nearly any species alive will go nuts when you go for their offspring.
Guys, I think ICE agents are aliens.
I think it’s a case of psychopathy and the fact that some of these people TRULY don’t see black and brown people as people. The dehumanization is truly complete to the point that they really don’t understand that they’re PEOPLE, with thoughts and feelings.
Psychopaths understand people a lot better than these ice agents. These are garden variety sociopaths at best
Well, they’re supposed to snatch innocent people, kids, break apart families, so I think it’s granted they must be some kind of sadistic psychopaths.
After that, the way they try to get around the illegality of what they’re doing suggests they’re also very, very, very dumb.
Exactly. Joining ice is the easiest way to show the world you’re antisocial, racist and have zero
emotionalintelligence. These people wouldn’t know empathy if it slapped someone else across the faceThese people wouldn’t know empathy if it slapped someone else across the face
Brilliantly put
Are they… illegal aliens?
Well, they are doing illegal things
I saw this ICE agent doing ICE things
I didn’t see a video on the archived site, didn’t want to subscribe with an email to see the page. Does the video cover their acts and the following crash? Weighing my interests, maybe I’ll find it elsewhere
Not the crash itself. But the direct aftermath. They see something happened down the street and start going there.
As for the agents fuckery, they get yelled at on the street outside the school and look like shocked deer at an approaching car.
The video is an embedded FB live video.
Heres the linkEdit: linking to the video on FB doesn’t seem to work. But there’s no validation, so you can sign up using any email. I was able to watch it after entering the email fuck@you.com
That’s my address!
I regret nothing.
Damn these ICE agents are a threat to everyone.
Always have been.
Regardless of who caused the accident, they hit and run, right? That’s insanely illegal.
Yes.
I’m not at all surprised they did it, though. What’s yet another little law when their entire day job involves breaking them?
Because the kidnapping was going to be on the up and up?
I’m not defending the guy, but it’s better he left then started shooting his way out or something
I suppose that is about where the bar is for these guys
The article as written is wrong. The Nissan did not leave the scene, and can be seen in the footage.
If ICE is meeting resistance even in a place like Westbury, then at least something is going right.
Can’t spell bitches without ICE.
Melt the ICE.
Kristi Noem is a sorry excuse for a human being and that’s putting it nicely.
Hoping no real people were injured.
I hope every ICE agent dies of slow colon cancer
I feel sorry for the colon cancer
My wife just got declared to be colon cancer free. It was a close thing. Can we go with wishing some other cause of death on them? Maybe a fire? Or multiple stab wounds?
My wife is in recovery from burns after I stabbed her and set fire to her boyfriend’s apartment.
Can we go back to colon cancer?
Sending you good vibes.
not so fun fact, non healing burns/scars /wounds are known to cause rare form of skin cancer(agressive SCC), yess squamous cell cancer can be quite deadly, if it forms from a burn scar.
Oh, shit. I may have killed her?
Honestly, I get you. After watching my wife have a stroke, I feel the same way. I was just parroting an edgy joke.
“Edgy”, that’s it! Wood chipper, cutting themselves while shaving, falling onto a scythe, whatever… as long as it involves an edge!
But you… I hope you die at age 249 after breaking the record for most orgasms, then pass away peacefully in your sleep surrounded by loved ones and soft animals… (the animals were not involved in the prior activity)
I drove an aunt to the hospital with a minor stroke. It was terrible and horrible. Terror. Horror.
Know that a random guy wishes you and your wife the best.
Thanks, I kinda needed that right now.
DM me anytime.
I won’t, but thanks
I know someone who died of fast colon cancer, and I’d be okay with ICE agents going the same way.
they will probably die from a coronary before any cancer.
On the one hand, yes. On the other, I don’t want them to stick around doing evil for a long time. Maybe something immediately debilitating that takes a long time to finish?
Rabies
Bone cancer would be more painful. Just saying.
So, Imma go back to my philosophy 101 argument structure days. Fill in the blank.
Premise 1. Racists should never feel safe being racists. Premise 2. Nobody willingly becomes an ICE agent without being a racist. Conclusion: Therefore, … ?
ICE should never feel safe, at any time, ever again. Make them NEED marines and NG cover every time they go out for one of their abduction raids.
I wonder if ICE agents are paid a lot more than those people would be in other jobs having the same qualifications/experience etc, and that’s the reason why they stay on. Or some massive perks or something. Why isn’t there a mass exodus of ICE agents leaving? Or maybe there is and it’s not reported? There must be some attraction?
I’m pretty much convinced they recruited all these thugs from alt-right groups and disgraced ex-police in the last few months. They don’t have uniforms or badges. They wear face masks and refuse to identify themselves. They needed a bunch of guys that had no problem with being cruel and hateful and they were right there ready to step up.
They have to. Where else would so many new ones come from? So many who are so unaware of rights and laws?
yea these are most likely the same people who formed their own local militias and jerked off to fantasies of shooting protesters.
They probably just walk around downtown and recruit from whomever has a cut-off shirt and a swastika tattoo
The perk is rape. Lots of rape. These are unidentified and unaccountable thugs. For your safety, shoot them on sight.
You only agree to work for ICE if you’re a psychopath in the first place.
The massive perk is that they get to be cruel bastards and hate for a living.
When people start shooting these Nazis you’ll see the rats leave the sinking ship rapidly.
She gave them an arrest quota of 3,000 a day. Jesus christ
Steven Miller is apparently having screaming meltdowns about how more and more and more “immigrants” must be arrested/deported. Miller is likely the person who is actually our acting president right now with Trump as a chaotic front to keep people distracted from this.
Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller has far too much power. He is HitlerPig’s
WormtailWormtongue, whispering poison in his ear. He’s hidden in the shadows for far too long like the creepy lizard he is. It’s time to focus on him, assign his atrocities to him, and start attacking him. He needs to be run out of the administration and the government.Edit: Sorry, got my fantasy bad guys mixed up.
I’m thinking that if ICE et al keeps this up, pretty soon random people are gonna start taking sneaky potshots at them. Amongst many, many other things, these dipshits are actively making their own jobs wildly more dangerous.
100%. We should be encouraging them without identifying them.
One can only hope.
That would bring the military into our communities even quicker. Seems like a very bad idea.
The military is already in our communities dummy
The only bad idea is sitting back and just complaining online.
Sniping ICE agents would make things much worse much more quickly.
Maybe the progression of violence is inevitable, but once you start killing pigs, it will all happen very quickly.
The progression of violence has been enacted by the government for decades… Sitting around waiting is just letting them put on the cuffs before fighting back. https://lemmy.world/post/31339564
Look man, I am a protesting, pro-physical intervention, pro-whatever it takes leftist. All I’m saying is random people shooting at ICE is going to end protest and resistance, and begin the part where the government shoots and kills protestors and resistance on sight.
If you think that’s the best plan, that’s fine. I do not. I think there is more that needs to happen before the shooting starts.
I own many guns. I practice with them. I have thousands of rounds of ammunition. When the government starts shooting people, I will decide if I’m ready to die to protect my family and community.
But I’m not gonna kill myself and dozens of others by foolishly “taking a pot shot” at these fucking nazis.
When the government starts shooting people??? 🤦What caliber is required for it to count as shooting? Ballistic missile???
https://lemmy.world/post/31091610/17560200 https://lemmy.world/post/6839427
Once again this is nothing new, been only getting worse my entire life.
Enjoy the fascists they’ll only keep winning with folks like this so proud of themselves.
Alright man. Stay safe out there.
If you’re afraid of attacking their person, then attack their property.
We can all work together to make sure ICE agents don’t get nice suburban houses that aren’t covered in eggs and toilet paper.
We can all work together to make sure their tires don’t have air in them as often as possible.
