• @MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 days ago

    I mean, looking on the bright side: Even the Federation universe had to go through two civil wars, World War III, and the eugenics war to get to where they ended up.

  • IninewCrow
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    717 days ago

    We’re getting neither … we’re getting this instead …

  • @Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    517 days ago

    No, that’s not what we’re getting. Say what you will about the Terran Confederation, at least they built a space empire under a unified common goal. At least those humans were outrageously evil.

    Instead, what we’re getting is this:

  • LousyCornMuffins
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    216 days ago

    what we wanted:

    what we got:

    i will weep for the futures lost, but i will not weep for getting mirror kira

  • Pandantic [they/them]
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    17 days ago

    Strange that the Space Force logo is a combination of both…

    Not sure how they can just steal the Star Trek logo tho…

  • @T156@lemmy.world
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    You say that, but we seem to be at least on track to a better 2050 than they had.

    We’ve not had a eugenics war, drug-controlled supersoldiers, nuclear conflagration, nor a mutant genocide campaign, and we may not get the second and fourth.

    • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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      115 days ago

      Yeah in the Star Trek universe they praised Elon Musk

      Guess we have already split off from that timeline. Unless of course the fascists will rewrite history.

      • @T156@lemmy.world
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        I feel like people overblow the Elon Musk reference. Even putting aside the plot twist, it’s been nearly 200 years from now, and they had the whole nuclear apocalypse in the early 2000s, which would only further muddle things.

        People today praise Thomas Edison, and he was not that much better in many respects.

        It’s entirely reasonable for someone in the 23rd century to lose some of the details that we might have today.

      • @Agent641@lemmy.world
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        Elon Musk still has time for a redemption arc. He might very well be the the person who finally kills Elon Musk

  • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    217 days ago

    The word Utopia translates to “No place”.

    There is no such thing as a utopia. The point of stories about utopias is just to get people to think about how to improve things. Not to make people upset they aren’t living in a place that can never exist.

    The world presented by Star Trek isn’t telling you how things should be, how could it? It’s wildly inconsistent about how things work, like do they have money or not? It seems it’s just conveying they have an ideal future economy, but since the writers don’t know what that will be, it’s deliberately vague.

    The point is to show various problems we have today from the perspective of people in a better future so we can understand that our problems as solvable and motivate us to solve them.

    If you’re giving up on solving the problems we have today because they seem impossible to solve or you believe they should magically solve themselves, then you’re missing the point of Star Trek.

    • Amputret
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      317 days ago

      I mean, the Star Trek timeline was incredibly shitty for humans up until it wasn’t.

      • Ænima
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        117 days ago

        True. But eventually human empathy succeeded. Call me pessimistic – the barista sure likes to – but I just don’t see that happening for this timeline!

  • Sundray
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    017 days ago

    That reminds me, does anyone know where I could get an agonizer repaired for cheap?

    • NegativeNullOPM
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      217 days ago

      O’Brien can fix anything, and does his own Quality Assurance, so is extra cheap

  • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    017 days ago

    We don’t know that yet. First we have to go through the nuclear war before we can get to Starfleet. We’re speed running it now.