• RFI: Trump says US attack ‘obliterated’ Iran nuclear sites

President Donald Trump said the US military struck three Iranian nuclear sites as the United States entered the conflict between Israel and Iran, raising fears of a wider war in the Middle East.

Trump announced the “spectacular military success” on June 21, saying US bombers hit nuclear sites at Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan in a joint effort with Israel to destroy Iran’s nuclear program after diplomacy failed to get Tehran to return to the negotiating table.

  • @sour@feddit.org
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    1619 days ago

    All the “Can’t vote for Kamala because war” people are pretty quiet lately…

    • @opavader@lemmy.world
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      019 days ago

      the only candidates who would have preferred peace and humanity over shilling for superpacs and israel have been deemed “unelectable” since 2016 and will continue to do so. hopefully aoc can pull an obama in next election

      • @GuyFawkes@midwest.social
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        119 days ago

        Hopefully there IS a next election. You can’t see Dotard trying to postpone because of “this big ugly war”?

      • @sour@feddit.org
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        119 days ago

        Obviously she is, but what’s happening now are the consequences of their actions. So I figured they’d either be “damn, I made a huge mistake” or justifying why this is a good thing.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          019 days ago

          In that case you must not be looking very hard, because I see these arguments every other thread. In case you actually don’t see this stuff, long story short the arguments boil down to “See? We fucking told you centrism wasn’t going to work,” “so genocide is bad now that Trump is doing it,” “the heck are you blaming us for? It was the moderates who stayed home” and “there were either enough progressives to sway the election or not enough to listen to them, you can’t have it both ways”. Also, though I haven’t seen this one much from other people, here’s me in this thread:

          Then why is the DNC not pushing back on Trump’s, by his own admission, war? Why are they saying exactly nothing about the genocide in Gaza? If they had any issue with these things, we’d have heard it. I mean hell, Barack “hope and change” Obama had the chance to end the war on terror and he just… didn’t. If you think imperialism is a partisan issue in American politics you should take a long hard look at the history of your country, because that shit is fucking ugly and it doesn’t get prettier with the blue oligarchs in charge.

          • @sour@feddit.org
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            119 days ago

            Because they’re not a good choice. They’re just the better choice.

            But being against them is still an idiotic move. It’s called strategic voting.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              019 days ago

              But being against them is still an idiotic move.

              Only if you only think four years into the future and don’t think of how to actually get your way out of this mess, but either way we should be able to agree that the “can’t vote for Kamala because war” people are not, in fact, quiet.

              • @sour@feddit.org
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                019 days ago

                Oh yeah, you’re the best example that they’ve got a direct line of copium to their home.

                I guess helping to get Trump elected was a brilliant move for the future! Bright times ahead after his 4 years.

                • @evenglow@lemmy.world
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                  019 days ago

                  Notice how they got you talking about Democrats instead of Republicans. Be careful, don’t let them distract you.

                  Republicans are the problem at hand. Have been for decades.

                • NoneOfUrBusiness
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                  019 days ago

                  A lot of people can also die when fascism takes over because you didn’t try to figure shit out, and that’s the problem with vote blue no matter who: Democrats are woefully underequipped to stop fascism, so allowing them to coopt all left-leaning voices was always going to end in disaster. Coercing the Democrats into becoming less horrible was the only way to get out of this with American democracy intact, but that requires taking a more antagonistic stance than “vote blue no matter who”.

    • @venusaur@lemmy.world
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      019 days ago

      it was just a matter of when. Democrats are not your saviors. They are incentivized to leave things shitty to force voters’ hands and make the illusion that they’re doing the right thing and have a choice. Israel and Iran have been going at it off and on for decades. One 4 year presidential term wouldn’t have ended this.

      • @sour@feddit.org
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        119 days ago

        I agree that they’re not an amazing choice, but if you think democrats and Republicans are equal in their actions you’re delusional.

  • Hemingways_Shotgun
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    119 days ago

    On the bright side, if Trump says they obliterated something, it either means they totally missed, or it was lightly damaged at best. Fucker lies every time he opens his mouth. It’s generally a safe strategy to go with the opposite of anything that pours out of that burger hole.

  • Phoenixz
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    119 days ago

    So in other words: Most Iranian uranium facilities are intact and operational, gottit.

    Whenever Trump brags about something “he did” it’s usually the exact opposite