Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

  • @Rooskie91@discuss.online
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    5714 days ago

    Here is the full list of Democrats that voted to table the articles of impeachment.

    Find yours, call them, and let them know they’ve failed to represent the people interests.

    • @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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      2414 days ago

      Ro Khanna doing his standard move of cycling back and forth between pretending to be a progressive and just being utterly spineless.

      I truly hope “refused to impeach President Trump” becomes a purity test in the next primary. That’s a lot of incumbents to kick to the curb, but with this vote it’s well warranted.

      • @Gork@sopuli.xyz
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        414 days ago

        Only problem with this method is that there are those who voted for his first few impeachments but not this latest one, so they can say they have in the past but not specify which one.

        Also it’s a sad state of affairs that we have a President whose been impeached several times.

        • @Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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          414 days ago

          Give a date and time. Motherfuckers you don’t get credit for kinda representing the party sometimes.

    • @mercano@lemmy.world
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      714 days ago

      On the other hand, if they did vote for impeachment, call them and tell them to keep up the good fight.

    • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      214 days ago

      And then send them out to pasture like Andrew Cuomo.

      It can be done. Do it enough, and you’ll have a party that actually represents the people.

      • Kindness is Punk
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        213 days ago

        Yup, that’s what democracy is supposed to be all about giving engaged citizens the tools to change the system to reflect their values!

    • @dylanmorgan@sh.itjust.works
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      213 days ago

      Also, if your rep is not on the list, call their office and express your appreciation that they voted to move forward with impeachment.

    • I looked up the ones in my state, and I’m just gobsmacked at how fucking ugly the districts are. I know gerrymandering is bad, but when I actually have to see it… /puke

    • @Allonzee@lemmy.world
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      114 days ago

      I wish the office came with a mandate that they’d personally have to field constituent calls 4 hours a week.

      But like so much else, they aren’t going to legislate accountability for themselves.

    • SerotoninSwells
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      113 days ago

      Thank you. One of my representatives, Gabe Vasquez, is on the list and I messaged him. Funny that he put out a press release condemning the actions of bombing Iran but doesn’t want to support impeachment. What a turd.

    • @doctordevice@lemmy.ca
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      113 days ago

      Reminder that you can also do this if your rep voted against tabling to express support for what they’re doing and they they’re representing you well.

    • Well, I’ve just sent emails to the representatives that I could. Probably half of the ones from my state prevented emails from going out because my address didn’t fall in their district.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      TBH they’re representing my interests pretty well in this case. An impeachment trial would have just been a huge waste of time unless 20 Republican Senators joined the 47 DNC caucus to remove Trump and I can tell you right now with a 99.9% certainty that wasn’t going to happen.

    • snooggums
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      3314 days ago

      “If it won’t be successful, then work against it instead of showing support!”

      Dems

      • @ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works
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        013 days ago

        This is one of those times where the Dems are trying to quiet the kid provoking the moronic yet excitable school dean.

        • snooggums
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          1614 days ago

          Trying and trying again to improve the odds of success are better than shooting yourself in the dick if you don’t expect to succeed.

          • @GuyFawkes@midwest.social
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            -114 days ago

            Have fun with that. Even if Dems somehow manage to regain control I expect they’ll be just as impotent as they were 2021-2023, doing little to nothing fixing/undoing this mess, much less making any actual PROGRESS. Why do I think this do you ask? Because it’s what they ALWAYS do.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      013 days ago

      I mean, an Impeachment trial without any possibility of removal seems pretty pointless, yeah. It takes 67 Senators to remove. The DNC with caucus have 47. They probably don’t even have enough votes to pass a simple majority purely symbolic impeachment, much less removal from office.

    • Default Username
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      -114 days ago

      The Democratic party has always just been another branch of the wealthy. Neoliberalism is a cancer that really kicked into gear when Heritage Foundation-backed president Ronald Reagan came into office. Obama (I believe in his second term) said that back in the 80s, he would have been considered a moderate Republican.

  • @Soup@lemmy.world
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    Looks like there are 212 Democrat reps in the house, which puts it at a large majority which would rather “not cause a fuss” or whatever the fuck excuse they’re trying to bullshit this time.

    Useless people. Worthless people.

    • @doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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      213 days ago

      It’s not about not wanting to cause a fuss. It’s just a losing impeachment that people don’t want to attach their names to, probably the weakest attempt so far because so many Democrat presidents have acted in the same way. Precedent isn’t nothing.

      • @Soup@lemmy.world
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        113 days ago

        “So many democrat presidents have acted in the same way”

        One, doubt. Two, you take that entire excuse and shove it waaaay up your ass.

        • @doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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          I wasn’t talking about the entirety of Trump’s actions, just the military actions he took without congressional approval which has been essentially every military action in my life regardless of which party was in power - and that’s what this whole round of impeachment talks was about, this time.

          Regarding shoving this up my ass, I’m not into butt stuff but feel free to shove anything that strikes your fancy up your own ass if you like.

  • @IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
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    2213 days ago

    Here’s the full list of House Democrats who voted to table the impeachment articles.

    Pete Aguilar (California)
    Gabe Amo (Rhode Island)
    Jake Auchincloss (Massachusetts)
    Wesley Bell (Missouri)
    Ami Bera (California)
    Don Beyer (Virginia)
    Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
    Julia Brownley (California)
    Nikki Budzinski (Illinois)
    Janelle Bynum (Oregon)
    Salud Carbajal (California)
    Andre Carson (Indiana)
    Ed Case (Hawaii)
    Sean Casten (Illinois)
    Kathy Castor (Florida)
    Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (Florida)
    Katherine Clark (Massachusetts)
    Emanuel Cleaver (Missouri)
    Jim Clyburn (South Carolina)
    Herb Conaway (New Jersey)
    Lou Correa (California)
    Jim Costa (California)
    Joe Courtney (Connecticut)
    Angie Craig (Minnesota)
    Jason Crow (Colorado)
    Henry Cuellar (Texas)
    Sharice Davids (Kansas)
    Don Davis (North Carolina)
    Madeleine Dean (Pennsylvania)
    Rosa DeLauro (Connecticut)
    Suzan DelBene (Washington)
    Chris Deluzio (Pennsylvania)
    Debbie Dingell (Michigan)
    Sarah Elfreth (Maryland)
    Cleo Fields (Louisiana)
    Shomari Figures (Alabama)
    Lizzie Fletcher (Texas)
    Bill Foster (Illinois)
    Lois Frankel (Florida)
    Laura Gillen (New York)
    Jared Golden (Maine)
    Dan Goldman (New York)
    Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
    Maggie Goodlander (New Hampshire)
    Josh Gottheimer (New Jersey)
    Adam Gray (California)
    Josh Harder (California)
    Jim Himes (Connecticut)
    Steven Horsford (Nevada)
    Chrissy Houlahan (Pennsylvania)
    Steny Hoyer (Maryland)
    Val Hoyle (Oregon)
    Hakeem Jeffries (New York)
    Julie Johnson (Texas)
    Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
    Bill Keating (Massachusetts)
    Timothy Kennedy (New York)
    Ro Khanna (California)
    Greg Landsman (Ohio)
    Rick Larsen (Washington)
    John Larson (Connecticut)
    George Latimer (New York)
    Susie Lee (Nevada)
    Mike Levin (California)
    Sam Liccardo (California)
    Ted Lieu (California)
    Zoe Lofgren (California)
    Stephen Lynch (Massachusetts)
    Seth Magaziner (Rhode Island)
    John Mannion (New York)
    Lucy McBath (Georgia)
    Sarah McBride (Delaware)
    April McClain Delaney (Maryland)
    Jennifer McClellan (Virginia)
    Betty McCollum (Minnesota)
    Kristen McDonald Rivet (Michigan)
    Morgan McGarvey (Kentucky)
    Gregory Meeks (New York)
    Grace Meng (New York)
    Kweisi Mfume (Maryland)
    Joe Morelle (New York)
    Kelly Morrison (Minnesota)
    Jared Moskowitz (Florida)
    Seth Moulton (Massachusetts)
    Frank Mrvan (Indiana)
    Richard Neal (Massachusetts)
    Joe Neguse (Colorado)
    Johnny Olszewski (Maryland)
    Frank Pallone (New Jersey)
    Jimmy Panetta (California)
    Chris Pappas (New Hampshire)
    Nancy Pelosi (California)
    Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
    Scott Peters (California)
    Brittany Pettersen (Colorado)
    Nellie Pou (New Jersey)
    Mike Quigley (Illinois)
    Jamie Raskin (Maryland)
    Josh Riley (New York)
    Deborah Ross (North Carolina)
    Pat Ryan (New York)
    Andrea Salinas (Oregon)
    Mary Gay Scanlon (Pennsylvania)
    Brad Schneider (Illinois)
    Hillary Scholten (Michigan)
    Kim Schrier (Washington)
    Bobby Scott (Virginia)
    Terri Sewell (Alabama)
    Adam Smith (Washington)
    Eric Sorensen (Illinois)
    Darren Soto (Florida)
    Greg Stanton (Arizona)
    Haley Stevens (Michigan)
    Marilyn Strickland (Washington)
    Suhas Subramanyam (Virginia)
    Tom Suozzi (New York)
    Emilia Sykes (Ohio)
    Paul Tonko (New York)
    Ritchie Torres (New York)
    Lori Trahan (Massachusetts)
    Derek Tran (California)
    Lauren Underwood (Illinois)
    Juan Vargas (California)
    Gabe Vasquez (New Mexico)
    Marc Veasey (Texas)
    Eugene Vindman (Virginia)
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    George Whitesides (California)
    
    • @nickiwest@lemmy.world
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      1013 days ago

      My representative, who is generally a pretty progressive guy, is on this list. A local journalist asked about his vote, and the statement from his office was that the congressman is waiting for a classified briefing on the Iran strikes to help determine whether the president broke the law.

      I know that we live in a world where we expect not only a 24-hour news cycle, but 24-hour resolutions to all issues. Having a solid argument and proper evidence for impeachment is the sort of thing that moves more slowly than we would like.

    • @Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works
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      313 days ago

      Really appreciate it. I’ve been telling myself I need to start adding to the emails of my reps, and used this list as the reason to start.

    • @hark@lemmy.world
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      213 days ago

      Ah, Jim Clyburn, the jackass who helped Biden win the primary and put us on the path to the second Trump term.

    • @Coyote_sly@lemmy.world
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      1013 days ago

      God damn right. Primary every last one of those gutless fuckers and never cast another vote for any of them if they represent you.

  • Bud
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    2113 days ago

    The US is an inescapable hell. I pity the people living there right now.

  • @F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world
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    2014 days ago

    You people starting to realize that these ‘Democrats’ are just in there for the money like Republicans are, you need to clean the party

  • madjo
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    1012 days ago

    128 senators show their true republican colours…

    • @nibble4bits@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      112 days ago

      As if the Republicans in Congress would have allowed this impeachment to go through punished. His J6 one while he was found responsible, they chose not to punish him over it. They would have brought up the time that Obama did something similar, too.

    • @Etterra@discuss.online
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      112 days ago

      There’s a reason I call them Republicrats. Although I suspect this specifically is because they want future Democrat presidents to be able to blow shit up in the Middle East at will too.

  • Net_Runner :~$
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    913 days ago

    He’s already been impeached twice in his previous presidency, he shouldn’t even be sitting where he’s at

  • Goldholz
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    814 days ago

    I am so cynical already that i laughted out loud reading it.

    You cant convince me otherwise but that this world is a TV show for the gods!