People only say summer is good because we used to get 2 months off during it
I prefer fall, it is cloudy, dreary, cold, damp, no pollen, just overall my vibe.
This absolutely. Also summer didn’t use to feel like an inner circle of hell 30 years ago.
Winter too cold: Oh no, I guess I’ll put on some fuzzy socks and drink some chamomile tea
Summer too hot: Guess I’ll go to the fuckin ER for heat stroke
So very true. Dressing for cold is so much easier than heat it’s mindboggling to read some of these summer fan comments. Like, do you guys actually live on the same planet as I do? Cause this one sucks the minute temperatures go past 20c.
Some folks just tolerate extreme temps differently. I am nearly impervious to heat, but begin hating life below 10C.
It really depends on the climate you’re used to living in, the winters here are in the -20c range and yesterday it was 41c. I’m basically happy as long as it doesn’t get within 10c of the extremes.
Sounds like Canada anywhere not near the ocean. I’m in that same boat, and I’ll happily trade the stupidly hot summers for two extra months of winter.
I miss the moderate summers of Scandinavia in that regard. Sure, it rained a lot, but at least you could go outside without roasting to a crisp in minutes during summer.
Tell med you live far away from the coast without telling me. Also i sympathize
You ever looked at a stock image search of “Arab guy in desert” and wondered why they are wearing all that clothing?
It’s pretty easily explained and you can find reasons and anecdotes on YouTube, etc! Garments can do an effective job of keeping solar radiation off of you and regulate temperature! Obviously, culture and religion play a part as well
Yeah I was hinting at that lmao. “Getting naked isn’t the only or the best option for summer.”
Depends on where you are. Miserable in hotter places I’m sure, but in Sweden it’s quite honestly glorious. Sun up from 03:30 to 22 in Stockholm, and it never quite gets dark. Does wonders for your mood.
Winter, however, is a cold, dark and wet mess. Truly depressive.
Spring and autumn are alright, but suffer from just a little bit too much rain.
Naturally, the climate crisis is making things slightly too warm for comfort now, and we’re going to have to retrofit all homes to withstand heat better before too long.
Winter, however, is a cold, dark and wet mess. Truly depressive.
Anyone saying summer ‘only has good pr’ doesn’t have winters like that.
Counterpoint: I lived in Sweden and I miss that winter’s gloom. Sure, it’s dark before the snow falls but it gives you something to look forward to.
We’re winters do suck. Snowy winters are my jam though, even with the lack of day light, the snow and quiet make up for it.
Hot humid summers, and especially mosquitoes, can fuck right off. The extra daylight is nice though
I see summer as a nice relief from the depressing winter
Yeah, exactly. Winters in LA or LA might be different. But, winters in places with months and months of snow are awful. You can’t do much outside because it’s too cold. You can’t have your windows open to get some fresh air because it’s too cold. You can dress properly to do outdoor activities, but it often requires so many layers that it’s really uncomfortable. Plus, you can’t have any gaps. Your neck, wrists, ankles are often places where the cold can get in, or worse they can get wet and being cold and wet is awful.
In addition, the world is just miserable in winter. There’s almost nothing alive outside other than other humans. No grass, many trees lose all their leaves, birds migrate away, everything is shades of grey or brown. Christmas can be fun, and it’s no coincidence that it’s celebrated almost exactly on the darkest day of the year. That’s when we need a lot of pretty lights and cheer. But, Christmas is just the beginning of winter. What follows is months of gloomy grey cold.
And, while there are outdoor winter sports, you need special footwear for all of them because of the snow and ice. You can’t even walk across a field or a park without extra effort because of all the snow. Even key winter sports like skating or hockey, if played outside, require that you at a minimum spend a lot of time shovelling all the snow off the ice surface. For a good experience you also have to flood and smooth the ice periodically. So, it’s a lot of work.
Having said all that, if I had to choose between -30 and +40, I’d probably choose -30, because at least you can put on appropriate gear for that and spend some time outside doing something fun. It may be dark and it may be grey, but it’s possible to dress for the weather. When it’s too hot, you really can’t spend any time outside, without risking your life, and it certainly isn’t possible to do anything active. But if the choice is between -30 and +30, give me the +30 any day.
Winters in LA or LA
You… I like you.
Also, you’re sliiiightly overstating how little you can do in the summer hot times. It’s not a “risking your life” scenario every time… Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule. I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday. Plus you get fun things like all the animals that are crepuscular being out and about, so you’ll have ospreys flying over your heads with a fish, or squirrels doing races around the fencetops.
You… I like you.
You’d really have liked it if I started talking about how the winters in Ontario, CA are much more pleasant than the ones in Ontario, CA.
Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule.
Ah, right. I hadn’t considered that. It’s interesting that the places with the most brutal heat are the ones with a relatively early sunset. In 2023 Oslo hit 32 degrees, not that hot by international standards, but combine that with the fact it happened on June 15th and the sun never fully sets at that time of year, and it’s hard to find relief.
I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday.
Do you live somewhere where the mid-day heat is 35+C? 40+C? To me, those are the only ones where it’s truly brutal and I might prefer long, harsh winters. OTOH, human culture hasn’t really found a great way to deal with brutally cold winters. There are winter solstice celebrations, but no adjustment of the schedule of life to avoid the worst of the cold. But, in places with really hot summers there’s often a tradition of mid-day naps, and I could really get on board with that lifestyle.
Uh… off the top of my head calculations, 40C is equivalent to 104F? I think my summer days get to just below that, on average. Hottest recorded ever was 109F, but that was at an airport, so lots of concrete and very high amounts of heat producing engines may have ticked that up a degree or two.
I think my rowing activities average about 30C when we start, and the courtside fun a hair or two higher. We try to stop by the time it gets close to 39C. Even with a breeze you can’t really sustain activity by then. That’s when we go to get lunch and then, yep, sleep.
Ouch. Good to know it’s possible though.
I honestly love the solitude that harsh winters bring. And all the heavy clothing I get to wear, the much longer nights, going through my stockpile of canned and preserved goods. There have been winters where I was snowed in for weeks, and they were glorious
It’s true, the brain and body need extra care to prevent depression during winter, but I’m much more depressed during the long, blistering hot summer months
Yeah that winter sounds fun.
Try 7 months of dark at 3pm and grey overcast and mild drizzle everyday.
Where do I sign up?
Cumbernauld
Yes please
Winter is quite nice when there is snow. We don’t get that in Stockholm, for the most part.
Yep summer in Scotland just means it rains slightly less and doesn’t get dark at 3pm
I’ve been told it’s positively Mediterranean this year though, is that right?
We had the driest period in 100 years a month or two ago, didn’t rain for 5 weeks or something. Back to 18-20C and only raining half the time so better than usual I guess aye
20C is like the most you’re gonna get out of a scottish summer with some exceptions lol
“Climate crisis is making things slightly too warm for comfort”
Oh my. How bothersome.
I know you didn’t mean it that way, just the understatement had me cackling.
Well, it begins with too warm for comfort here, and then it gets progressively worse.
Exactly. In Seattle, summer is the best. High of 75 most days and because of the water surround the city, it only gets down to high 50’s at night. And our winters aren’t too bad. 45F/40F averages, just wet with the light rain.
But don’t tell anyone because we don’t want more people moving here!
But don’t tell anyone because we don’t want more people moving here!
You need to build more housing so that more people can enjoy it, but more significantly so that the people already there can afford it.
100%. The current city density plan will not cut it with the current growth projections. We’re trying our damnedest by being active in many advocacy groups!
I know there’s been a campaign for years about seasonal depression, but lack of sleep causes depression too and if it’s only dark for 5.5 hours I’m probably getting about that much sleep and I’m probably waking a few times during it to sigh and turn over. Unless there’s AC and the light is 100% blacked out (not a speck peeking over or around the curtain).
Blackout curtains are mandatory equipment for any Swedish bedroom, in my opinion. There’s no way to get enough sleep without them. Sleep masks also help if you’re particularly sensitive to light.
AC is generally speaking not required, as nights are cool and letting in air can provide adequate cooling for all but the hottest days of the year. This is of course a problem for people like me who are allergic to grass pollen, which is active during summer, but I’ve been able to get by mostly with a fan these days.
In Alaska all of the seasons have their charm, except Spring. Spring is a bad time.
The thick ice on the roads starts to melt and you have wet ice for an unacceptably long time. All of the soft fluffy white snow on the sides of the road hardens and gets covered in dirt being spread to make roads drivable. Every time you leave the house it’s a harrowing experience, and everyone’s so used to the danger of driving they just shrug and go ”yeah, it’s bad out there huh?” Randomly you get a cold snap without snow just to make you suffer a bit before it goes back to thawing.
It didn’t used to be as bad as it is today a short while ago. It will continue to be worser for the rest of our lives.
I hate bugs. I hate everything being full of bugs and flies and the trash cans outside stink like poop in the heat. I hate having bug babies everywhere. I hate having a deadly lazer above me so that I can only choose between burning myself alive, wearing disgusting cream, or covering up like crazy and sweating even more. All the food goes bad instantly. The food in the supermarket is infested with flies. I wake up at 4 am because stupid Altbau doesn’t allow for proper outside blinds. I hate that it’s either fucking up the environment even more by using AC or heat stroke. I also hate overdone AC in buildings that gives me a cold. Have you ever had a feverish cold during summertime? It’s awful. And makeup, you cannot do makeup in the heat without it becoming a smudge of sunscreen, color, oil and sweat. Have I mentioned the bugs and caterpillars and maggots and larvae and everything, everything is alive? And then, when it rains and everything cools down for a bit, you get earthworms.
You know what’s amazing? Cold ass dry snowy winter days. Bug free heaven.
You know what’s amazing? Cold ass dry snowy winter days. Bug free heaven.
I love the cold, clear, still winter nights when there’s so many stars you think you’re seeing things, and it’s so quiet you can hear the owls fly by.
Thank you for perfectly describing just about all the reasons I would skip summer altogether if I could.
The one missing complaint from my end is that you can’t do anything outside or in a non-AC building without instantly sweating like you took a shower with your clothes on.
And don’t get me started on everything being on fire. The only thing worse than regular summer is a summer where you can’t see the skies for several month’s due to the smoke and you have to worry about your house burning down all the damn time.
Couldn’t agree more with the OOP.
Got AC? Cool. No? Not cool.
This. Heat can be nice when you can cool off in the pool and can easily escape it indoors. Not so fun if there is no escape for weeks or months.
I love the winter, but it obviously sucks if you freeze to death.
Winter you can add layers.
Summer, there’s only so many layers you can remove before somebody calls the cops
It’s always fun and games until somebody calls the cops.
It’s only illegal if you get caught
Wym? That’s the best part!
Hot weather is a lot more comfortable than cold weather to me tbh
Same. I’ll take 110F/43C any day over 10F/-10C. 85/35 is my happy place.
You’re mad.
20c or lower.
If it’s warmer I am not liable for dripping sweat all over things.
I know this was from a week ago, but I just saw something relevant.
There’s a rarely used Ancient Greek word, κακοθερής, which means “unsuitable for summer.” Most modern people view this as saying there’s a word that means you’re “bad at summer.”
In Modern Greek, the word summer is καλοκαίρι - a compound word that is basically “beautiful weather” used as one word. I couldn’t agree more. So I’ll just go join my fellow olive oil enjoyers in worshiping the magic of the season.
Naw, 75F+ is gross. 60F is the sweet spot.
Too cold. 75°F year round is ideal. I wish I could afford San Diego.
Naw, light jacket weather is superior to shorts weather all day, everyday
Nah. Being naked in the face of the burning sun is superior to needing clothes for comfort.
Naw, sweating just for standing outside ain’t it. I’d rather have the option to be cold outside and warmer with clothes if I choose.
LOL 75°F isn’t “warm”. Nobody is going to sweat from just standing outside in 75° weather. You need 110°+ for that to happen.
But then you never get to enjoy the beach.
I try to avoid the beach as much as possible. I’ll take snowy mountains over the beach.
Grew up in San Diego. Twas 75F year round
It depends on where you are. Seattle summers are amazing (shhhh, don’t tell anyone).
Me in Seattle right now: it’s too hot, it’s too bright, there are too many tourists, I want the cold and rain back
Today or this week?
I’m in Seattle too. Bite your tongue, today is perfect!
It truly is! On the way to Capitol Hill pride as I comment. Loving the weather for my outfit!
I was gonna say no way to OP but you’re right. If you’re somewhere where it’s mostly like around 100 F or higher then fuck that.
Same. I’m in the Seattle area and summer is incredible…skies are clear temps are mostly super comfortable except for like 2 weeks when I need a fan.
I agree, but at the same time, I wouldn’t give up having the contrast between seasons for anything. You need that 92 degrees with 80% humidity to really appreciate the cool down after a thunderstorm. And my absolute favorite time of year is that first chilly week in September that let’s you know the heat is behind you–but the frigid cold is on the way.
All things in balance and moderation…
80% humidity
As a Houstonian, sincerely,
Laugh all you want, at least we don’t live in Texas.
I think you don’t understand this gif.
Yeah, I’d argue the real problem is that each season is too damn long. Cut them in half and I won’t have time to get bored with them.
Completely disagree. Summer is my favorite season and would remain so in the complete absence of PR.
This post reminds me of a friend in the ad business who told me people only think iced drinks taste better because in the early 1900s some advertising genius created a campaign to convince people of that. No, sorry, cold drinks are more refreshing. The ancient Romans thought so too, and used to haul ice down from the Alps, centuries before the advertising industry even existed.
You don’t need refreshing if you’re not already overheated.
There’s a difference between refreshing and better tasting though. Hell, all the beer companies in america know that, which is why you get things like the coors campaign of the mountains changing color if the beer can is cold enough, because cold suppresses your ability to taste. They know they taste like shit but because they’re so cold they are ‘refreshing.’
No one is talking about autumn? We have splash of color everywhere, Less bugs, comfy clothes, moderate temp and moderate lighting.
I usually just have allergies throughout.
I mean, summer is different than it was 50 years ago. It’s hotter, longer, and dryer.
Less rain but more humidity
Not in my area (Utah), we don’t know anything about this “humidity” thing you speak of. Even our snow is dry.
And I don’t get to stop going to work every day.
I heard there’s 104 days of summer vacation, til school comes along just to end it.
more like 104° days until summer ends
That’s a lot of days. It’s hard for us all to find a good way to spend it.
I don’t understand this, if I didn’t have to work for >100 days, I’d have a blast! Our summer break starts a bit earlier than most places (end of May) and school starts a bit earlier than many places (middle of August), and we have already visited the pool multiple times, visited family across the country, done some hikes, and done some bike rides. The rest of the summer is busy as well, with visiting the other side of the family next month, celebrating Independence Day (I’m in the US), and doing some camping trips.
If you can’t fill 3-ish months of free time, that’s on you. I, for one, am going to make sure I and my kids enjoy it.
It’s the Phineas and Ferb theme song. They also have lots of great ideas for filling the time. Sounds like you’re rocking it!
Winter fans be like: i love winter but I’m never going to go outside and I’ll stay inside in my conditioned home
The last time we had a really solid snow here, which was years ago, I went outside and made a pile of snow and laid on it for about an hour while it was actively snowing. I loved every second of it. Meanwhile all of my summer loving relatives stayed inside and complained for the 4 days that the snow lasted. They couldn’t even handle 4 days of weather they didn’t like. I live with it year round most years.
