Bro is posting this transphobic garbage on 4chan like they didn’t all want to suck girlcock there too 🙄
So close to being a sensible rant until the transmysoginy
these people think women can have dicks
There it is. I was suspicious of this person’s politics from the “virtually every topic known to man”.
Yup, I saw that first part and thought, “Ahh, 4chan, where people think reddit is too woke.”
On a note regarding relationship advice, that’s so fucking true and I was always being downvoted there for pointing that out. I wonder how many relationships got broken because of Reddit’s advice on some of the minor and normal relationship problems that could be solved by talking it out instead of “that’s a red flag just dump them bro”.
Let’s go through this:
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Unpop Opinon is always terrible. It’s terrible by design. Next.
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Yes, very true, relationship advice online is generally awful. Rare chad on 4chan?
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Ew. Going on about wrongthink, sounds like someone tried to say something hateful and didn’t like being told to shut up.
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Ew. Probably went on conservative. Shut up.
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“Talks in qualifiers”?? What is this, a fucking grammarly course? Shut the fuck up.
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Oh gee I can’t talk about a specific language on the meta language board, I can only talk about meta language learning. If only I could go to a sub for the individual fucking language. What, are you complaining that you can’t flood the meta sub with one of a thousand “whats good spanish app” posts?? Shut the fuck up.
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Yes, hobbyists can be snobs. Not unique to reddit. Although I wonder if again we’re mad that someone disagreed with me. Should probably just shut the fuck up.
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Grammarly snob Anon doesn’t like acronym snob Redditor, okay. This just sounds whiny. You guessed it, shut the fuck up.
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And then there’s the transphobia, although TBQH I’m a little concerned that Anon hadn’t already lost you all before this point, did you just not sniff out the whiny bitchboy bullshit or did you all actually agree with it? Oh well, at least you all can draw the line at transphobia. As far as this complaint, they’re upset that they didn’t understand someone else’s post because there wasn’t enough information? Seriously? Shut the fuck up!
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Ladydick is great but if it tastes yeasty then maybe see a doctor
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Award speech edits are actually the very, very, qualitatively super duper worst thing about redditors, indeed. Never the less, shut the fuck up anon
Yeah this whole rant fell flat, it was just a generic conservative bitchpost. 1/10
The hobby one was the one that hit me the most.
I love a specific hobby. I don’t like to engage much of the community because my opinions go against the hive kind. I also don’t have interest/energy to debate. I also am not that interested in engaging daily. Weekly, sure. Monthly, absolutely. But day after day? I have a life to live.
But Every time I introduce people to it, I have to dial down my excitement. I invest a lot into my hobby and I’m really good at it.
Who controls the Reddit narrative of my hobby? Not people like me.
Well, what’s the hobby?
Check out the defender of the hive here.
It’s not a hive mind… it’s just a lot of people who think you’re a dick.
Like you realize that Anon will call us a hivemind for challenging transphobia right? Is it because you can’t think for yourself? Or maybe you have a better reason for hating transphobes??
People who complain about hivemind are just trying to dehumanize and divide us.
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Can’t wait till I see the greentext screenshots from 4chan about trying Lemmy only to discover it’s just Reddit. This site is the ultimate “we’re not Reddit!”
Looks inside
Reddit
More niche and somehow more circle jerk
But at least federated 🤷
Turns out when you give full autonomy to the users they double down on being cringe. And I’m here for it, love y’all.
I wish there was a board where people would have the ideology of the left but without bring so triggered by anything.
Just no concept of humor as a coping mechanism.
Sir this is Lemmy. People are even more up their butts here than Reddit
I’ve had the fortune to post on niche micro-imageboards like that, irreverent but not hateful.
They just have to stay small otherwise the classic issue of “Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company” arises and now you can’t post pictures of black people without a chance of triggering the trolls.
The age old battle between “I think It’s funny because It’s true” against "I think it’s funny because it’s not true and absurd "
Stupidpol describes itself as “Subreddit focused on critiquing capitalism and identity politics from a Marxist perspective” and I’d say that’s pretty accurate. Despite being primarily Marxist, rightoids and libs are allowed to post so long as they flair themselves, and censorship is kept to a minimum (mostly just removal of anything that gets Reddit admins involved).
It seems like you are getting either one extreme or the other. I’d be fine with no extremism on either political side and more rational moderation.
rational moderation is a pipedream
It isn’t. The baseline could be straight up illegal comments (defamation, threats, extortion, etc.) and some generally accepted rules among most worldviews on top of that.
Surely thats your own lemmy instance ? other instances can federate or defederate as they want (or piefed)
I am poor and don’t call me Shirley.
there used to be a /leftypol/ somewhere but it was all Stirnerists for some reason
Ummm this is actually so toxic and disrespectful. People on the left care about and advocate for marginalised people and so adding humour to them is a pretty bad look sweety. I think, respectfully, you should delete this now. And maybe catch up on some of your leftist reading… This comment gives me pretty yikes vibes…
The problem is that 4chan is too degenerate and reddit is too, well… reddit. Unfortunately Lemmy is far from perfect as well.
Reddit is populated by Bill Maher flavored liberals, 4chan is populated by Asmondgold flavored cockroaches, Tildes is populated by approximately seven users (but they’re all pretty cool), and Lemmy users are smart with tech and stupid with everything else
Hey, some of us are stupid with tech too! 😤
Finally, I feel seen.
If your views are more moderate and nuanced, not so much. Context and intent does not seem to matter here.
This is so accurate I thought it worth acknowledging and repeating.
I think you replied to the wrong guy, but thanks anyways.
I did indeed but I’m glad you saw it because you put exactly how I’ve felt about Lemmy into words.
and Lemmy users are smart with tech and stupid with everything else
Well, that’s me fucked, where too now ?
I’d like a George Carlin / Bill Burr with some Carl Sagan as balance flavored community, please.
Huh I never thought of Burr as a modern Carlin but actually that checks out.
Lemmy is more liberal than left, that’s my problem with it. You will get hate for saying very reasonable opinions just because it goes against certain narratives. Better yet, just spit straight facts and you will still get hate, like this: economic class matters more than race for nearly all aspects of life, and a considerable number of primarily-racial factors would also be solved by eliminating poverty and reducing overall inequality.
Now watch the comments roll in.
Yup, I mean read the other replies justifying murder under this comment and being upvoted. It’s fucking insane.
dumb comment tilting at windmills, the amount of people posting opinions like the ones you’re thinking about are dwarfed by everyone else
Lemmy is just the right amount of degenerate.
I disagree, on one hand people are really easily offended and on the other you have blatant open pedophilia among the anime communities and people calling for physical violence. It might be “just right” if you agree with the majority of people here. If your views are more moderate and nuanced, not so much. Context and intent does not seem to matter here.
Addendum: This isn’t even anyones fault specifically, but of human psychology. Read about tribalism and social sorting, it is depressing as fuck. If you disagree with somebody your brain automatically puts them in the “enemy team” and attributes everything you consider evil or negative with them, whether you like it or not.
Well, it’s a mixed bag. There are those who want to house the homeless, and there are those who want to house the homeless in tents made of landlord skins.
Hey, they’d finally be useful for something!
There are those who want to house the homeless, and there are those who want to house the homeless in tents made of landlord skins.
Please, I can only get so wet!
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Well, physical violence against fascists is always justified. First they will come for the radicals, then they will come for the moderates, then they will come for the rest, and there’ll be nobody left.
The only good fascist is a dead one. That is my view.
The irony is that
Fascism views forms of violence – including political violence, imperialist violence, and war – as means to national rejuvenation.
Wikipedia
Making you no better than them. Thanks for proving my point, though.
Ah, the “Hitler drinks water, so that means everyone who drinks water are fascists” fallacy. Took you long enough.
Dude, I didn’t call anyone a nazi. I just called out hypocrisy.
Found the fascist.
The person with Taalnazi as their username?
Taal is Dutch for ‘language’, just saying. The name was picked to mock people who police language and expression, like those that prohibit discussing LGBT issues and being in favour of them.
You must think the Nazis were socialists.
I get it, you are morally superior to us all.
Yes, yes. You’re a South Park loving nihilist who believes in nothing and thinks everyone else must share your complete lack of morals and empathy. Both sides are same, and you have a lot of problematic opinions about trans people. Your kind is easy to spot a mile away.
I hate how much over reach the mods have. Reddit doesn’t want to pay them so they let them have absolute power in their subs and thousands of people are punished because the mods wife cheated on him with his brother and he’s having a bad week.
I was banned from the whole site because a mod got mad that I reported someone for abusive behavior that said mod agreed with.
I got banned because I said “1 like = 1 wank” in r/entertainment about a pornstar that had died. I thought it would be fitting but I guess I was wrong.
I would think most porn stars would find that funny. I know I would if I died and someone said that.
I feel less bad about my ban the more I hear about other bans, because I realize the problem is Reddit, not me.
This is even worse on Lemmy.
because the mods wife cheated on him with his brother and he’s having a bad week
Implying it wasn’t pre-arranged. Brother probably comes in like “hey baby -tips fedora- I just got back from my dog walking job and now I smell like at least 6 golden retrievers” and the mod’s wife’s panties drop because the brother has a job.
I got banned from unpopular opinions and a bunch of other communities on dbzer0 for activity not on that community. We’re slowly turning into Reddit
¯\_(ツ)_/¯Given that, according to your comment history, you think “homosexuality is morally wrong”, I don’t think you’re going to find much sympathy here. On the whole, Lemmy has little patience for regressive ideology.
I was talking in terms of my religious beliefs. If you aren’t a Christian, my opinion doesn’t concern you.
Unfortunately, lately Christians have done nothing but fucking make their religious beliefs a concern to me so no. You are dead ass wrong. After having drinks thrown at me, guns pulled on me, being spat at, cussed out, followed around in my car, kicked out of dog parks, and up rooting my entire fucking life to move to a safer place: I’m not a Christian and your opinion concerns the fuck out of me.
Why would my personal beliefs concern you?
I haven’t thrown a drink at you, pulled a gun, spat at you, cussed at you, followed you in your car or kick you out of a dog park. Nor have I done that to anyone. And I’ll condemn anyone I find doing it.
Same way you’ll condemn the gays yes?
So you hate religious people, why does anyone need to hear about it?
We don’t need to put words into peoples’ mouth. Correct your behaviour.
Perhaps not yours personally, but Christians’ in general sure do, because they’re always trying to shove their religious beliefs into governmental policy. People are dying right now because of the obviously Christian abortion ban in the US.
I disagree with a state enforcing religion
I’m glad, and I wish all Christians thought that way.
As a Christian, gtfo with homophobia. All people are made in Gods image and so to condemn the gay and transgender people is to condemn the Lord. Take one of the greatest commandments seriously: love thy neighbour.
One of the greatest commandments. But it’s not the greatest. The greatest is to love the LORD your God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength. That means loving Him more than any human and not engaging in relationships that dishonour Him.
Everyone has sinned and yet is made in God’s image. No human is not made in God’s image. Does that mean that we shouldn’t have a definition of right and wrong? By no means!
I never said to hate your neighbour.
Don’t care. If you cannot obey loving thy neighbour then you’re not a true Christian.
Loving your God means to love thy neighbour, that is what Jesus says. Quite literally citing from the motherfucking Bible:
"There is no commandment greater than these.”
If you wish to argue further with me, go first treat gay and transgender people with due respect as a true Christian should. If you cannot do that, then you are no longer a Christian.
I never said we should not treat gay and transgender people with due respect.
engaging in relationships that dishonour Him.
Your idea of due respect is saying that being gay is dishonoring god?
Well I think any “Christian” that thinks that God judges people for being gay is a Devil worshipper. Hate is the domain of Satan, not a benevolent God. There is a word for a being that would make people a certain immutable way and then judge them harshly for it. That word is Evil. You fundamentally believe in an evil, demonic god.
You’re not a Christian. You’re a Devil worshipper. And you will burn in Hell for your sins.
How do you define evil in that case? Lol.
Seeing people as a means to an end rather than an ends unto themselves. A basic lack of human empathy and respect for human dignity. Jesus was a brown socialist who hung out with queers, prostitutes, and social outcasts. That fact should inform any form of Christian ethics.
He kept telling them not to sin
He also made them gay.
Oh, and he made them in his image along with everyone else so god must be Pan.
Serious question: is the morality of homosexuality actually brought into question in the old/new testaments, or is this one of those things where people have chosen to interpret some shit creatively? Seen quite a few of those creative takes, like the people claiming the “hot or cold” or “camel through the eye of the needle” bits are actually some obscure references to local conditions rather than actual moral lessons.
I encourage you to look it up for yourself. The English translations are pretty unequivocal, though there are those who insist they are miss-translated.
That insistence has not resulted in any of the major English translations choosing different wording.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-homosexuality/
Is a good list.
Of course, none of that matters because gay people should have more rights than any book.
Damn those are some harsh passages. Definitely not creative interpretation on that one.
Bible is pretty clear.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
Romans 1:26-27
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
As for the “hot and cold”, that type of thing is up for interpretation, although I hold that hot water is good and so is cold water. I believe that’s what Jesus was referring to.
The “Camel through an eye of a needle” with the “eye of the needle” being a gate is a total myth made up by the rich to try and justify their greed. Jesus meant what we read it as today. For extra clarification, the original greek even refers to the word “needle” with different words, one is surgical, I believe the other one is fishing related. So it couldn’t be a place. Jesus meant what He said - it is easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle than a rich person to get into heaven.
Exactly. The bible is clear, and it is clearly unjust.
Therefore those who follow what it says are spreading injustice through the world and must be stopped.
wow what a hateful book
I’m a Christian! Did you know that the church in Ethiopia was started by a non-binary person? Gender and sexuality used to be very different social constructs in biblical times and modern views on gender and sexuality didn’t come around in full force until around 300 years ago.
It’s a real shame that the church in general tends to reject the LGBT community. Science has shown over and over again that sexual identity and gender identity are inherent parts of people, and it makes no sense to me how God can hate something that he designed.
Source on the Ethiopian church?
Matthew 19:4-5
He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
Gender did exist in biblical times
Acts 8:27-28 NRSV [27] So [Phillip] got up and went. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to Jerusalem to worship [28] and was returning home; seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.
Here’s a story about a eunuch returning home from Jerusalem. Eunuchs back then were seen as ‘between’ male and female. They were able to go between the men’s Chambers in the women’s Chambers freely, and so they were very useful in courts. Not all Eunuchs were in the courts though.
According to church tradition this very Eunuch founded the Ethiopian Church. And so it is very possible for non-binary people to be followers of Christ.
Of course we can’t fall into the pitfall of applying modern sexuality and gender theory on ancient cultures, as they have a very different set of social institutions.
Some theologians of years past have suggested that the passage which is alluded to in Genesis might have a different meaning.
Genesis 2:23 NRSV [23] Then the man said, “This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; this one shall be called Woman, for out of Man this one was taken.”
This taken in conjunction with the passage that you quoted, can be interpreted very differently. Woman was taken out of man, meaning that Man was once both male and female at the same time, and yet perfect as all of God’s creation was.
Jesus never explicitly condemns Eunuchs or other groups of gender non-conforming people. I would not take this passage to exclude everything else from the life giving blood shed for us on the cross
Eunuchs were men, though. They were castrated so were seen as less of a threat. I do not think we can compare eunuchs to non-binary/gender-non-conforming people of today.
I don’t think that’s the case
Matthew 19:12 NRSV [12] For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”
Jesus mentions two types of eunuchs here. Those who are made, and those who are born as eunuchs. The latter, those who are born as eunuchs are what we today call intersex people.
Intersex people have ambiguous sex characteristics and are born that way. Intersex people make up around 1.7% of the population, around the same amount as people who have red hair. They are pretty distinct. Sometimes they can have male genitalia and female sex hormones, while still others can have ambiguous genitalia. Others still have male chromosomes when being phenotypically female.
Not every one of these was included in the term Eunuch, as they aren’t always visible traits. But many of these traits were visible so they were seen as distinct from men. Oftentimes they’re born that way.
(An aside while it’s on my mind, Jesus tells us that marriage is overrated in this passage. I think we neglect our single church members a lot, seeing as there doesn’t seem to be much space for them outside of the context of marriage. And this passage says that marriage isn’t for everyone)
I never had to write my political manifesto to join a community on Reddit either lmao
DBZero(and Blahaj) have skin so thin that a bible page across the arm causes bloodletting.
I’m surprised the owners don’t divvy out ban quotas per month. Half of the users they ban aren’t even conservatives, who just had logical misunderstandings with an admin one day; wannabe couch revolutionaries looking for targets in the absence of anything real to do.
Blahaj has a no tolerance policy on trans rights, from what I understand, and I think they like how they run their stuff. Maybe you know that already, but if not, maybe that’s helpful? It’s not so much thin skin as “we’re here for the purpose of not seeing that kinda stuff, so we block it here”.
DB0 is legitimately one of the coolest places on the modern internet, I’m curious to hear what kinds of things you’ve seen bans for. The admin/host (by the same name) seems to have very rational, reasonable takes toward moderation, and he values transparency and community feedback. Frankly from my own (instance-level, not community or thread) observations, he seems like a model of high-quality moderation. Your experience sounds off to me, but I hope that doesn’t come across as an accusation, I don’t intend one.
Blahaj, I kind of understand. Although I’d prefer if you were to have an LGBTQ+ safe place instance, that the communities primarily on there are LGBTQ+ communities. I don’t think I was banned on DB0 by the instance, but multiple communities which seemed to have the same mod.
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that you cannot be conservative on !conservative@lemmy.world , they’re basically just name squatting. They banned me from there because I was calling out a post attacking religion. I wasn’t even being that conservative.
You can be conservative, you just cannot be an ass. Unfortunately, it is rather difficult for conservatives to not be proper conservatives and instead they often turn to fascism like Trump and Musk proclaim.
Being a conservative is about prioritising the status quo. It is not about returning to the middle ages with a police state of witchhunting and mass murder, which is what fascists and reactionaries want.
Above all, this is NOT the place for serious conservative support/viewpoints/arguments. There are other places on Lemmy for that if you desire it.
Conservative was reclaimed from the hatemongers so it could be used to mock them.
Hilariously this comment is precisely as confusing to me as the comm itself.
I guess I’d add, having returned to this, that it’s a bit off-putting for you to be sharing your preferences for how they behave with their own instance, given your non-involvement with that instance itself, or trans things in general.
One of the major points of federation as a concept is for folks to not be mandatorily subject to some overarching singular approach to content moderation. You’re here, so I think it’s reasonable to assume you care at least a bit about the way this platform works and what makes it unique(ish) and valuable.
At the risk of coming across more hostile than I intend - why on earth does Blahaj need to specifically, only, be about trans topics, to be a valid space in your eyes, when it seems they mostly just want to exist how they prefer and interact with federated Lemmy stuff, in the ways federation explicitly intends?
I’ll admit that I don’t always remember to look at where a given post originated from before commenting, and I should get better at that - could be that’s all you need, too 🤷♂️
It’s moreso how here people tend to gravitate to a single community. It is annoying if that community is on an instance which could be banning people for other reasons unrelated to that community. I didn’t say it isn’t a valid space, it’s just how instances work. For a while Blahaj had defederated feddit.uk because we handled trans topics differently to how they’d prefer. It would be annoying if, let’s say, the main and active asklemmy community was on blahaj
Ah yeah that’s a reasonable take and I do know what you mean. I broadly like what federation offers over centralization, but it’s not without its quirks and some drawbacks, I hear ya.
At least if a community goes bad, people can shift very easily and it’s an inconvenience. I think ideally though, there should be a way to create publicly accepted combined communities. Maybe an option in a community’s setting to graft in posts from another community. Although then rule enforcement and moderation might get a little tricky. For example, just say !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk grafted in !casualuk@feddit.uk, maybe along with uk politics and other UK related subs (even local UK subs, that’d be cool!). Users on unitedkingdom may see something on casualuk and unknowingly leave comments on it which are political- and discussing politics is banned on casualuk.
I really don’t understand that comm either, but I haven’t looked too closely cuz I’m not that interested. I also moved off .world entirely for my accounts because I don’t like some of their moderation stances. I understand why they have them and don’t begrudge them for it, to be clear. But I do eye them warily as a kind of emerging de facto instance in some ways (AKA potential for more centralization than seems wise, given their need or desire to comply with certain local laws that limit speech).
Or maybe the ““conservatives”” are the actual snowflakes they complain about.
Maybe those fascists should gtfo and try not shooting and killing women and queers, and so on?
It would be nice if some of them(like my previous alt), were actually proven to be conservatives to begin with so they didn’t draw the attention of keyboard warriors for the misuse of a pronoun.
Blahaj kicked me out of 196 on Matrix just for being straight.
Pretty sure Blåhaj doesn’t kick out people like that. It may be that you used a slur, were being an ass with your faith, or whatever.
Have you ever tried being nice to people? It does wonders.
Some Lemmy “lefties” are actually just liberals who hate America and want some token reforms of capitalism. If you look at it that way the actions of the extreme/stupid users starts to add up.
This. In recent months I’ve seen more and more hostile interactions and political strawmans than I can count. Been on Lemmy for over 2 years, and it hasn’t changed for the worse until recently.
Yeah, it all changed after Trump’s victory and all the crazy shit he started immediately doing. I have both contributed to the problem, and lamented the shift. I don’t want this platform to be about slinging half-baked political takes (lumping myself in there, to be clear), but also I can’t blame anyone for wanting to discuss the terrifying stuff we’re seeing. Really was cooler here, even just 6 months ago.
I hate Trump passionately.
You sir are a rare breed, I think the first actual conservative I have ever seen on Lemmy. I’m sure we disagree on most things but thanks for adding some diversity of opinion in a respectful manner.
Actual as in, status quo, Christian democrat stuff, or “actual” as in, fascists and alt-right and populists? The latter aren’t conservatives; in the US, those are the actual RINOs.
I mean I haven’t browsed through his post history but this thread he says he is a Christian who hates trump so I would guess the former.
What is wrong with women with cocks? I find them very hot.
Anon is a futa hater
On 4chan.
Yeah boo reddit.
Random transphobia in there can fuck right off
Yeeeeeaaaaah, when I read the bit about narrow talking points being allowed, I knew the author was either going to have a good point about Reddit’s tendency to circlejerk, or be a bigoted piece of shit. Not really shocked it’s the latter.
They’re coming from 4chan. It was obvious how it was going to go just by the format of the post, before reading a single word
Sometimes there are surprisingly wholesome/based 4chan posts. Definitely in the minority, though.
Indeed, one thing I love about being trans is that it gives me a radar for if someone is being based or just an asshole.
If I detect transphobia I realize it’s just assholery.
trouble is, we can all use that method with or without being Trans 😜 stay safe
4th item is most likely referring to r/conservative as well which means they’re also mad they can’t participate in the hate chamber
Eh probably not, I used to get messages all the time saying “Oh you were subscribed to or posted in r/thisbullshit so we went ahead and banned you.” even though I didn’t even remember subscribing to or posting in said subreddit
Also Reddit’s policy is officially that you cannot be banned from one subreddit for something that happened in another. This policy is so god damn ignored, that you’d think it was an officer’s oath to serve and protect.
Third point too in my experience
Random? That or some other bigoted bullshit was forecast to come from the third sentence.
They really buried the lede with that one, huh.
“Everywhere I go smells like shit.”
Better check your shoes for dog shit!
Had me until the transphobia
seriously? there was some whiny obnoxious shit there way before the transphobia
It explains some.of the earlier stuff too.
He’s active on right-wing hate subs, so he’s banned from the remaining civilized subs.
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