Afatwa, or religious decree, issued by senior Iranian clerics calling for the assassination of U.S. President Donald Trump has attracted online funding worth tens of millions of dollars, reports say.

    • @blitzen@lemmy.ca
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      I saw a billboard (in California) for a gofundme for Texas disaster relief. That feels peak 2025 to me.

    • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      316 days ago

      I seem to recall reading one of the divisive things the cipherpunks on their mailing list discussion was about untraceable digital money (before Bitcoin) and the thought experiment about just this very kind of thing (minus the siren server like GoFundMe, because why would you want that in the mix if you were doing this kind of thing).

      Not that anyone set it up, and the many proposals around digital cash did not really gain traction until 2009 or so…but this was from the 90s.

  • @anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6216 days ago

    Did you know that it’s illegal to say, “I wish someone would kill the president of the united states”?

    Im not saying it, im just letting you know that it’s illegal. Like a public service announcement.

    • Bad idea if you live in a country with extradition treaty with the US.

      You could end up in gitmo for “providing material support to terrorist activity”, because that is technically what you are doing, money is material support.

      I can’t tell you what to do, but like if Iran actually manage to do it, it would be the best excuse to get Iran obliterated from the map, and most NATO countries will probably help with the invasion of Iran under Article 5, since that’s effectively like a 9/11 v2 (not in number of deaths, but in terms of being able to justify a foreign war).

      Iran performing the assassination is 100x worse than, say that nutjob in 2024 doing it. If trump die from that kid’s gunshot, there wouldn’t be much happening, but if Iran did it? In this tense political climate where 1/3 of the US population are in a cult? Can you even imagine all the lynchings against Muslims, Arabs, and anyone who “looks middle eastern”?

      Any soldiers or national guard that was bordering on “hmm, is this actually legal”, will now not even question their orders. Being anti-trump in the aftermath of this hypothetical assassination would be treated as almost as bad as supporting al-qaeda.

      Its not a good idea, IMO.

      • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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        116 days ago

        You can get thrown in a concentration camp because your skin’s too dark and you weren’t carrying your ID, even if you’re a US citizen.

        That’s one of the side effects about tossing out the rule of law. If merely protesting or having a certain meme on your phone is dangerous, then might as well go all in.

        • But you also have to consider the “court of public opinion”

          Funding a foreign assassination attempt will only unite all of the right-of-center and take away some of support of “centrist”/“conservative” democrats. Bush popularity skyrocketed after 9/11, Patriot Act and all that.

          On the otherhand, some right wing nutjob young adult loser having nothing to lose and start targeting policitians left and right (like that kid in 2024), would be your best bet. There won’t be any “rally 'round the flag” effect.

          As we can all see with all the US interventions overseas, they clearly don’t work that well, that principle also goes if Iran tries to do their intervention in the US.

          And if you aren’t in the US, I’m not sure you wanna risk extradition. Donating money to an Iran sponsored assassination campaign is not an internet meme.

          I mean, sure if Europeans wanna send an the military to liberate the US, go ahead. But that €5 donation to an Iranian asasination campaign isn’t really gonna change the US by much and would only put yourself on an extradition plane to the US, because this isn’t a meme, you’re giving material support, so I doubt any of the western countries would deny an extradition request for material support. And even if that plan goes into fruition, you might make the US even worse and in turn, the US could start fucking up the world even more.

          Again, I’m not arguing against violence as a strategy, but you’re expecting nazis to be defeated simply by killing hitler, its not that simple.

          • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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            Funding a foreign assassination attempt will only unite all of the right-of-center and take away some of support of “centrist”/“conservative” democrats.

            If it’s done in full seriousness, sure. But, the left can play the same game the right does. “Haha, it’s a joke, I just donated $10 to the kill Trump GoFundMe, isn’t that hilarious! What’s wrong, MAGA? Triggered? What snowflakes! Relax, it isn’t real, it’s just a joke. OR IS IT!? Haha, only joking, you thought I was serious. You MAGAs just can’t take a joke!”

      • @Zabjam@feddit.org
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        Why article 5? Is it not only valid if a country suffers an unprovoked attack? It will be hard to argue that bombing a country is not a provocation.

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      Perhaps move to Iran first, then you can really appreciate the greatness of that society and their great struggle against evil.

    • comador
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      “The above sum ($40,286, 867) will be received by the people who have committed themselves to any freedman who will carry out the sentence of justice.”

      ($45,286, 867)

      “A photo of the deceased will be published.”

      ($50,286, 867)

      “A recording of their last words will be published.”

      ($60,286, 867)

      “Ol’ Pete will get the Russian resignation treatment.”

      ($65,286, 867)

      “Marco will get a special tea to drink.”

    • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      616 days ago

      Yeah, I cannot decide who I’d want least out of those two. They are both so goddamned weird. That porn pact thing that little johnson has with his son - really weird. And he always comes off as just so creepy and awful.

      And “JD” - that asshole sitting there and asking Zelenskyy if he said thank you? “JD” can go fuck himself.

    • One thing trump is really good at is playing people off each other. The man has a learning disability and is under-educated, but only a fool denies his savvy. He accepted vance knowing he couldn’t hold a coalition of the stupid and greedy, and if trump falls, they all fall to infighting unless there’s a dark horse I’m not seeing.

  • @t_berium@lemmy.world
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    I don’t think making him a martyr would be a good idea. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t shed a tear if he passed with the worst agony I can imagine. But making him a martyr would make his agenda immortal.

    • @Hugin@lemmy.world
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      Martyrs tend to be symbols to a cause. Trump and maga don’t have much ideology it’s more a cult of personality. Those tend to go away when the central figure dies.

      • @t_berium@lemmy.world
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        I understand what you mean. But think of Hitler. Obviously his agenda did not die with him. But imagine all the numbnuts if he was assasinated on the peak of his power.

        • @Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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          And to be fair, the easiest way to tell someone doesnt belong in society is when they start spouting hitlers views. A little litmus test, as a treat

        • @Allemaniac@lemmy.world
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          thats exactly what he did. He killed himself before he could get captured because videos of him in detention and beaten senseless would diminish his legacy. Your example is prove of the other guy being right

    • @Saleh@feddit.org
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      I disagree. The people who want to make him a Martyr will make him a Martyr no matter what. The people who know what he has done will understand that him being killed doesn’t make any of that better.

      See the way all the other Fascists in the world before him were handled.

  • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    Ugh, does anyone want to see “JD” “Vance” take that role while the qons make a martyr of this shithead?

    Or possibly worse, that little dweeby troll magamike johnson if they were to target “JD”, too?

    The people behind 2025 will use anyone else as their tool and if Taco were to fatwa’ed, it wouldn’t make anything better and would most likely make things much worse.

    • @DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world
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      Hypothetically, if Trump flatlined, Vance would be FAR better. He doesn’t command the cult. The cult would finally fracture. Rats would finally speak truth to power.

    • @lemmylump@lemmy.world
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      Was JFK ever a martyr? They elected Nixon the next election.

      I just don’t buy this argument, and as far as J Davenport fucker is concerned I don’t think he could hold the party together, and they’d eat themselves.

  • @AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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    617 days ago

    Has there ever been an assassination that was motivated by a public bounty? And did the assassin successfully collect?

  • Lukas Murch
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    616 days ago

    “So how did you solve world hunger?” “First we had a go fund me to assassinate DT. Met our goal. Then we fulfilled our end of the bargain.” “Go on…” “The we defunded ICE, and solved world hunger. 120B goes a long way.”