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“OMG guys look. Nazis were a specific group in Germany circa the 1940’s. Elon is just a massive, authoritarian loving racist, okay? Not a Nazi. Read a dictionary.”
God I wish I just came up with that joke myself instead of basing it on real arguments I’ve heard. 😮💨
If he’s not from the Nazi region of Germany, he’s not real Nazi, he’s just a sparkling fascist. 🧐
(Not an original comment, but it’s too good not to recycle)
I’ve gotten really wary of people when they start splitting hairs:
- “Nazis were a specific group in Germany”
- “What’s happening is Gaza isn’t a real genocide”
- “Hebephilia is not the same as pedophilia”
- “cartoon animal sex isn’t the same as beastiality”
I mean…yeah, ok. You’re not wrong in adding that one to the pile, but also it’s really weird that was your instinctive go-to on this subject.
We’re over here talking about genocide, and hate, and war, and death. You’re over here like “Hey, don’t forget how some people find looney toons sexy!”
Ouch, some folks ain’t gonna like this comment
Oh I know. Im not sorry. They know why wanking to animal sex isn’t right.
Drawings can’t hurt you, dawg.
I mean I’m not into it, but I would also not call sex between anthropomorphic cartoon characters that take on the qualities of animals the same as animal sex. It’s basically mythical creature sex. I mean would it be animal sex if someone was into, for example, centaur sex? Because we’re essentially talking about creatures that look somewhat like the animals they are supposed to be, but more more like humans.
I have yet to see a rabbit or a mouse that look especially close to Bugs or Mickey.
Again, not my thing, but I wouldn’t classify it in the same category as bestiality and I would guess that a lot of people into that would not be into actual animal sex at all.
Im pretty sure you’re not into it. But it’s the same thing as little girl cartoon sex. It ain’t right.
It’s not the same at all. A little human girl in a cartoon is still a little human girl. You show me one real mouse that looks like Mickey.
Again, is being into centaur sex being into bestiality? Or can we acknowledge the fact that fictional creatures are not the same as real ones?
People actually into bestiality help perpetuate animal cruelty. Lumping the people into anthropomorphic animal sex in cartoons into that group is really unfair and unkind to them just because you don’t approve of their specific kink.
It isn’t, but they’re still wrong’uns if you ask me.
Enjoying watching animals having sex is beastiality. It is wrong, I agree.
“It’s not beastiality”.
“Well that doesn’t mean it’s beastiality”
Lol
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The only reason I think it was a nazi salute is that it was done by a nazi…
“He probably did it as a joke.”
Actual excuse I’ve heard from multiple people.
I thought the point of a joke was to be funny? What is funny about memeing a Nazi salute?
People are goddamn morons.
They’re lying. The joke is on you.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Jean-Paul Sartre
I’ve also heard the excuse “he’s autistic”
An excuse is all it is
I have asked a similar question many times in the past when people excuse such things as jokes:
What is the effective difference between doing a Nazi salute like that “as a joke” and just doing one?
Same thing I ask when people claim they are being racist as a joke.
What is the effective difference between doing a Nazi salute like that “as a joke” and just doing one?
Plausible deniability. Pushing a boundary instead of breaking a taboo.
That is not an effective difference, that’s an excuse.
I mean he did. It was a shitty ass hole joke. He just wanted to piss the woke people off it definitely worked.
Woke is now defined as being appalled by Nazis? I thought that was just common sense.
He just wanted to piss off anyone who he thinks is his enemy. Is what I meant by woke.
Probably should just drop the term altogether then. It basically implies that being a moron is somehow virtuous.
You mean like the antisemitism he spewed like a day ago?
What?
Oh, you didn’t see that? Go do a search. Musk is a fascist and saying otherwise is just running interference.
Are you mistaking my comment for someone else? When did I ever defend him or say anything good about him.
Can you explain how people being upset about credible threats of terrorism is funny?
I didn’t say it was funny.
Sure 👌
Sad thing is that, regardless of what he is or isn’t, people are answering his attention whoring with attention.
He’s the richest man in the world who has untold influence over the most powerful office in the world. It’s hard to ignore him at this point sadly. Ignoring the problem isn’t going to make it go away.
Still not a fan of pizzacakecomics. The ones that are supposed to be funny aren’t, imho, and the political ones are way too heavy-handed for my taste.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, I agree with the content, but for a comic that’s on the reddit frontpage all the time it’s an incredibly crude way of getting the point across.
i think it’s a fairly good satire of the situation… of course musk didn’t say he was a nazi, but he did give the contemporary neo-nazi salute of hitting his chest first… twice in a row, the same way….
and there’s actually an argument as to whether or not he meant it… even though it’s not ambiguous at all, and he’s had a history of promoting far-right content, the AfD, and his wealth originates in Apartheid South Africa and is obviously soak in blood….
it’s pretty absurd that anyone would deny it.
there’s actually an argument as to whether or not he meant it.
There has been no argument from Musk.
well no he made fun of it on twitter:
““Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is sooo tired.”He used a joke to deny being Hitler. Not the same.
he denied it, is the important part
He said didn’t want to be referred to as Hitler.
He denied nothing.
Who could have guessed that the rich white South African would turn out to be a white supremacist?
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Sorry but, no. Stereotypes are bad.
He’s a white supremacist. That’s all that matters here.
Except South Africa has a specific history where being a white South African, raised in the era in which he was raised, can be expected to have a very relevant influence on how he sees the world.
Everyone of race X who lived in location Y at time Z thinks the same
No. This is textbook bigotry. You’re literally implying all white people around his age who were raised in South Africa are just like him.
That’s fucked up.
Look, my last comment left out the word “rich”, the original I replied to used it. As far as I’m concerned, any rich white South African from the apartheid era is sus as fucking fuck, at a bare minimum. Onus is on THEM to prove they aren’t monsters.
If that’s bigotry to you, you have a lot of growing up to do. This kind of nonsense purity testing is the reason the left remains a fucking meme.
ETA: Ah, you even put words in my mouth, “just like him”. Did I make such a claim? What I said in the first place is that growing up that way would definitely influence how someone sees the world. So the ridiculous hair-splitting you’re doing isn’t even close to accurate, you had to invent a comment I never made to throw your bad take at. Yikes.
Imo the rich part matters too
It matters in the same way that fire can kill you. If you’re in a house fire, you died of smoke, not fire. But…fire can still kill you, and is dangerous.
Wut?
Fuck off. Being South African has nothing to do with this guy’s bullshit.
Edit: ppl downvoting this fact without even attempting to back up the contrary are idiots and cowards.
I don’t think they’re saying each item individually.
