So the past of the internet?
The original web 3 was supposed to be a return to form of web 1, with the good stuff of web 2 and decentralized. Then cryptobros hijacked it
Yes and, We’re taking it back.
https://about.flipboard.com/fediverse/how-to-get-started-in-the-fediverse/
There’s more than just lemmy
it would be interesting to have some kind of study about which one is more popular these days, the fedivetse or the cryptobro web 3
I’d ask Jauwn
I don’t think I’ve really seen any literature about web3 that wasn’t a crypto scam in a trench coat. Do you have any links or info about the original goals of web3?
Wikipedia agrees with you
This is a story about my web3 thoughts, circa 2018… https://mangocats.com/ao/IslandLife.html
Riiight… nothing to do with advertising. It was cryptobros, it’s always cryptobros.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3
But it is crypto bros
History rhymes and all that
“Time flows like a river, and history repeats.” -Secret of Mana
Time flows like a river, and fruit flies like a banana.
Everything old is new again.
Basically forums
Maybe we’ll use newsgroups for actually talking to people again
Arr, those be the high seas now
The thing is that many people, myself included assumed most were dead and cannibalised by Reddit and Facebook groups. Turns out those specialised places have been running continuously on their own pace. Yeah, threads can still span hundreds of pages but in the end going through them makes you an expert on things overnight ;)
Oh my God, the Something Awful forums are still up: https://forums.somethingawful.com/
And active
I would sooner die than join the ranks of SA goons.
No it’s fine, we banned Lowtax
Bring them back! I for one would rather use a forum over a fucking Discord server any day of the week. At least forums are open, searchable and discoverable. Good luck finding the answer to a question you have that some poor sod like you may have also asked in a Discord server months or years ago.
God I hate discord.
And mailing lists!
It is for me, but I have my doubts that the majority will avoid the corporate-owned spaces.
I think it’s always going to be a sort of long-tail phenomenon, with most people involved in the biggest platforms, but a large number of small platforms that attract a minority of the overall population.
I think by now we have figured out the majority of people are garbage and you only want to spend time with a select group. Discord seems to have this figured out.
The only thing which has changed is the medium.
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we’ve always been garbage.
I don’t think we have. Some people theorise that the tower of babel really happened. Whether you’re religous or not doesn’t really matter but it shows that during the earliest recorded days humanity wanted to help each other and everyone by building a tower. There are theories as to why god didn’t allow the tower to reach them so then the blame is put on god, not humanity.
The theological explanation I’ve been hearing recently for that is that God didn’t want humanity to be a monolithic entity, but rather to have many different flavors and cultures. Supporting evidence is that in Revelation there is reference to all of the nations and tribes on the Earth being represented in heaven. Meaning that those cultures are retained, minus the worst parts of them. It’s actually a great argument for intentional diversity and allowing people groups to maintain their uniqueness rather than assimilate into a global conglomerate.
Naw, it was just divide and rule.
But to play devil’s advocate (pun very much intended) in the gnostic scripture of the nag Hamadi it straight up says whoever parctipated in the tower of babel will go to hell. Why punish people when they thought they were doing good? And the nag hamadi also says whatever happens in the world is god’s will. Meaning every single event in history whether good or bad is because god wanted it that way. So according to the nag hamadi god wanted all the wars, all the climate change, all the confusion, all the rape and murder is because god wanted it. Why aren’t we born with knowledge of every language if god wanted diverse languages? That way people will choose the language they speak rather than it being forced upon them from wherever they’re born. The nag hamadi actually answers every existential question if you read it objectively without any pre existing beliefs in my personal view. We don’t have any free will on earth according to the nag hamadi and this is the only universe that exists.
There are a lot of gnostic writings but they don’t hold much value. They were essentially rejected when they were written. You did ask an interesting question though, why we aren’t born with knowledge of every language if God wanted to diverse languages.
I’ve read theology about this as well, and the answer that I’m hearing at the moment regarding that has to do with the speaking in tongues that was released at Pentecost. On that occasion, there were people from many other regions assembled in Jerusalem and when they began to speak in tongues, people from foreign lands heard their own native tongue spoken clearly. The way it’s described, it seems even the dialects were correct.
It’s not clear if that was a miracle of being able to speak in a language they didn’t understand, or if it was a miracle of understanding. But it does seem to be a reversal of the confusion that was caused by the multiple languages at the tower of Babel, yet retaining the diversity and also creating unity. The inferred implication is that the same kind of understanding will be available in eternity when all of the brokenness of this world is restored with a new heaven and new Earth.
Esperanto ftw.
It depends on the discord. I joined a discord where the most narcissistic people were there and they singled me out for whatever reason because I wasn’t just simply going with their thinking. There was another member that thought like me but their own narcissi tendencies made up a conspiracy theory that somehow that was my alt. I didn’t even know the guy irl. It’s a shame as I was interested in the subject matter of the discord but I guess if enough village idiots own a discord, the smart villager is seen as the idiot.
Some majorities are bigger than others.
I wasn’t too early, but I joined reddit around the Dota 2 beta, so circa 2012, and damn the site became more and more garbage the more people it had, most comments became nothing but karma farming one liners, references or snide shit.
Communities grew into massive echo chambers, quality of discussions went down the drain.
now they’re heading to lemmy to do the same thing
meh, lemmy is pretty stagnant from what I have seen, plus you can create your own instance and mostly defederate from a lot of stuff.
Check out Neocities, a great community of indie web fans, built in the spirit of the old GeoCities sites.
Some really great sites there, it really captures that late 90’s to early 2000’s internet vibes.
Definitely depends on the site because I’ve seen some impressive modern looking sites in the past, but a lot of sites I find on there definitely encapsulate that vibe in a great way.
US servers though… better self-host or use another non-US VPS.
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You think the current US would stop at Canada and Mexico?
Real issue is how much effort are people willing to put to maintain those communities.
Just like as it was in the past
You’ve found the leading light of destiny burning in the ashes of your memory.
The future is the past!
Sounds a lot like the past. And, actually, a bit like the current internet. Custom websites, feed syndication, etc. didn’t disappear, they just shrank in the face of behemoth platforms.
I do not hold with this, at all. After leaving Twitter two years ago, and going to Mastodon, and Mbin, when the world started to come to an end three weeks ago, when Trump flipped to making the US and ally of Russia against the world, I needed to be plugged in, so with years of reservations against supporting anything fucking Jack was involved in (he’s still the largest single shareholder of bluesky stock, so fuck off telling me he stepped away from the board), I finally signed up for Bluesky, because when shit is going down, I don’t need to be browsing some lefty tankie currated community for realtime news, I need to be jacked in to the widest collective there is, so I can parse and disseminate information for every source possible.
That’s fine, but don’t mistake being jacked in for action.
Maybe the idea behind those smaller communities is that they’d be focused on things like fishing and kite surfing. Social media that are even remotely popular have become football stadiums where people constantly need to pledge allegiance to their teams and that’s just really boring now.
the world is now gripped in the great struggle between democracy and fascist disassembly with the worlds only superpower squarely onside with a criminal fascist government of russia with no regard for human life even of it’s own citizens, with Billions of real lives on the line all around the world, a great many of us will be fighting over tinned beans and rainwater in the next years, there is nothing boring about being able to prepare yourself to keep your family and loved ones as protected as you can, with forewarning, and kite surfing ain’t gonna do that. fishing will become more and more useful though, that’s a good one.
I’m a news junkie but you’re kidding yourself if you think staying on top of things can affect anything. Now is a good time to review reliability of news sources that you’re using, not add even more. To me it sounds like you’re about to create an enormous bubble / echo chamber where you can no longer recognise any self faults. It’s now more important than ever to see reality all of us created. Please be mindful of your mental health or you’ll end up with anxiety attacks.
word salad
I don’t have adhd but act like I do for other medical reasons so I sometimes skip a word in the middle of the sentence, sorry about that. I have made corrections so that sentences are not so jumbled.
I think you just proved their point.
Compartmentalize the people, conquer their minds. Machiavelli’s divide and conquer.
Heck how about Twitter
We need at least ONE (hopefully not more though heh) person on there when Pres Musk announces WWIII so they can screenshot for us :(
Guess that’s why there’s XCancel.com & a couple others mirroring - they’re soldiers, must be costing them a bit of actual $ to create enough accounts to still scrape & mirror so many tweets from the site
Bluesky with a few US politics blocklists is a decent experience.
I’m finding it just like Twitter used to be (which is what I heard it was, and expected before I signed up), minus the overt Nazis, and able to weed out the AntiSemites easily enough with an actual “fuck off into the shadow realm i can’t see you you can’t see me” block function, as apposed to what Mbin/Lemmy offer which is simply masking
Is there something like a masterlist of forums. Id like to join some but dont know where to look.
The best I can think of off hand is to look at the mobile apps that are designed to interact with traditional forums, because they will have directories of all the ones that are integrated with them. For example, Tapatalk and Fora Communities. You should be able to find thousands of forums categorized in those apps? I’ve never used these apps myself, but have heard of them.
This is what Google used to be for.
Small communities where one can talk about specific subjects? Man there’s something like that already and people can run it from their own computers too, forgot the name though.
The good old days of phpmybb
Thank fuck the corporate silo era is (slowly) coming to an end. And they tried so hard to turn it into TV 2.0.
