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Scarlett Johansson remains adamant that Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow’s death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe should not be undone.
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Even the actors are exhausted with the MCU.
I mean, that’s the negative POV. It may simply be that she said goodbye to the character and has no interest in revisiting it again
It’s the same effing thing over and over. Same with dinsey beating the dead corpse of Star Wars. Don’t they have any new, different ideas? Or are they gonna make 5000000000000 movies about the same shit?
Disney paid $4.05 billion for star wars. you bet your bottom dollar they’re going to beat that dead horse until there’s nothing left
Have you ever read comic books?
I read them both.
I, too, have read all two Marvel comic books.
Ooh, they have another one?
Nope
The second option
I mean, I feel the same way about character deaths. It’s an overused trope. Let’s have them quietly working in the background, like a capable spy would, eh? I think comics should have long ago embraced having their superheroes ‘retire’ by simply being background mentions from time to time, rather than have big dramatic deaths and torch passing.
Disney really made the MCU great up to and including Endgame. It should have ended after that but Disney could not stop ass fucking that cash cow to tears. Now we are left with garbage. I followed the MCU since the beginning with hulk/iron man. I miss the old MCU. Never cared for black widow though
If they really want her back, they’ll do it. “Whoa, I can’t believe the Russians cloned her, then turned her into a man, then the obvious dysphoria stemming from it caused her to turn traitor and join shield. I can’t believe she looks completely different now!” Far from the weirdest comic plot line
RDJ being Dr. Doom makes me think it’s just going to be Tony Stark “but what if he was evil” since Iron Man and Dr. Doom have relatively similar schticks. (Keyword: relatively. Nobody should read this and feel the need to tell me why they’re different. I only mean they’re both egotistical geniuses in metal armor.)
There actually was a storyline where Viktor stole Tony’s body and life. Leaving Tony with amnesia in his body and deported back to latveria. Except Viktor Tony became a good version of doom and Tony Viktor became an evil iron man.
This is just me, but I always felt her acting talents were wasted in the MCU. Same with Brie Larson.
I agree on Scarlet but not on Brie Larson, I find most characters she plays to be bland or not move me as much.
While Scarlet in Lucy, Dark Blue and ghost in the shell really really make it clear how good of an actress she is.
What about when she played Envy Adams on Scott Pilgrim!
I mean it was a smaller role years ago, but I loved it.
For Scarlett, I think she was amazing in Marriage Story.
Great song by Metric. Black Sheep
Larson did the vocals in the movie version of the song. Sounds just like Emily Haines.
I didn’t know it was actually her in scott pilgrim, tought it was a good imitation. That is amazing.
Will add marriage story to my watchlist, can’t remember having seen it.
Neither her best film with Ghost in the title, nor the best version of Ghost in the Shell.
Not that I disagree with your point. She has acting chops wasted in MCU.
She wasn’t the problem with Ghost though, at least outside the whitewashing aspect. Probably the best part of it tbh. Movie was just mid all around.
Just a reminder since people apparently still have this confusion; ghost in the shell wasn’t white washed. The character from book one is described as western looking specifically to be able to infiltrate any country without suspicion falling on Japan.
We can discuss why they didn’t white face a Japanese person if thats somehow less offensive than hiring for the look of the android body instead of the original body that died of cancer as a little girl, but that seems even more silly than people that had no interest in the series (or anime/manga in general) getting upset about accurate casting.
Altered Carbon enters the chat.
Altered Carbon enters the chat.
The show where the whole point was the character was in a different body and how weird that is?
Yep.
You’re right, everyone that doesn’t demand she has sex with a child on screen is a filthy casual. Absolutely absurd of people to base their image of the character on its most popular forms, the movie and anime.
…if people based their image of the character on either the manga or anime, they’d have an image of a white European woman.
That is what both the manga and anime describe the major’s main body as, and depicts it the same.
Lmao
No idea what the plot is of this, haven’t consumed any version of it, but it feels pretty fucking stupid to respond to something about the skin color of the protagonist by suggesting they should also want a child sex scene. Like, what??
You’re right, you’d have to be pretty goddamn stupid to gatekeep fandom of Ghost in the Shell by insisting people know and respect the manga details.
I was very surprised to discover it was her in Room (not The Room).
They got her early. She had a few solid credits to her name when she did Iron Man 2, but the smart MCU move at that point was to recruit young-ish talent and get them signed on for multi-movie contracts relatively cheap. Hopefully what we all get out of that sort of arrangement is that talented actors make enough MCU money to go off and do whatever out-there artsy stuff that creatively appeals to them and fosters their talents, rather than having to plug away in garbage movies just to pay the bills.
She was definitely a name before Ironman 2 with movies like “Lost in Translation”, “The Island”, “Girl with a pearl earring”, “Black Dahlia” to name a few.
I remember people being excited about seeing her in Ironman 2.
You are right that they grabbed cheaper people originally, but they werent unknown names.
They brought her back over and over in the What If? series.
Maybe the real issue is that the whole MCU just needs to die.
Personally I feel like it died with the resolving arc from Infinity war Part 2, when Thanos got beaten. I’m good to have it left there.
GOTG3 ended their arc pretty neatly too.
And even if I watch every marvel movie moving forward, I imagine it as being alternate timeline to the true ending. (a bit the same thing as the zelda timeline with hero defeated/hero won things)
But… but we’re still waiting for the Black Widow and Deadpool crossover…
I would watch a whole sitcom in the style of “Married With Children” with Natashas sleeper agent family.
As director she gave us several glorious ass shots to remember her by. Her work here is done.
MCU doesn’t need to bring her back, they have fantastic 4, x-men, and all their villains to handle now. Enough to make another 20 years of movies.
Every Marvel hero I like has died and come back multiple times. Why should Black Widow be any different? It doesn’t make them less of a hero. It doesn’t diminish their sacrifice. It just allows the character to continue being loved in new stories.
Maybe they shouldn’t bring people back, so a death actually means something.
She’s just so goddamn hot. Love a strong, capable redhead.
I usually don’t say these things out loud
It’s time you started! We should be more open about positivity in the world today
Gross and weird
It’s weird to think Scarlett Johansson is strong and capable? Lol
Complimenting people is gross, you’re supposed to just quietly shit on them while praising their accomplishments as long as they themselves are flaw free humans.
It’s really sad how afraid people are to give compliments. It’s not creepy, and it often makes people’s day better. We should all be uplifting one another, not tearing each other apart.
It’s weird to say you think celebrities are super hot in public
It’s an open forum
Yeah which is why I can express my opinion that saying that is weird and gross. Open forums go both ways.
Could’ve phrases that better if that’s what you meant, which might explain people down voting.
But yeah perfectly fine, but if berating slightly pervy people on the internet is your thing then there’s plenty of work cut out for you.
When did black widow die? Either i didn’t bother to see the movie or i forgot
During End Game.
It’s probably shameful for me to mention it, but I don’t think that I have seen Endgame more than the single time I saw it in theaters. It’s two very long movies to keep up with and then there’s so much going on that I’m not able to focus on a single character. I think that’s one reason that I’ve really enjoyed Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Stakes are much lower and there’s several characters, but they are manageable to keep track of because most of them are just normal supporting characters and not main characters in other movies about them.
First half is pretty bad. Second half is fun.
But I hate time travel stories.
As a movie /story, infinity war is significantly better
Not only is time travel such a messy plot device (especially if it’s not the primary premise of the movie), but they shot themselves in the foot for anything post endgame.
Most people think it’s super hero fatigue, but I still blame the issue of “the world experienced five years, but not everyone was there for it”. It’s just so messy and really screwed with every story immediately after.
People vanishing for 5 years is fine as a concept, but time travel existing makes consequence not matter. Which is normal for comics like people say, but these aren’t comics and they didn’t have to dive in to the same pitfalls face first.
They also need to shut the fuck up about upcoming movies and let people just experience it
I’m with you … I don’t need every MCU movie to be about the end of the world. I would be happy watching Spiderman trying to make rent while just handling some small time hood.
Spider-Man: Almost Homeless
I watched end game. Dont remeber her dieing. Heh
!She dies when they go back in time to get the soul stone. Gamora was sacraficed by Thanos to originally get the stone, Black widow gives her life so Hawkeye can live the second time around.!<
Yeah, and there was a similar plot line I think in the comics in infinity war 2 where something similar happened to Gamora but she was actually >!trapped inside the soul stone and they went in to break her out !<
It happened in the boring 2 hours
Lol nobody clamoring for you to come back lady, you’re the forgettable avenger
People downvote this a lot, but the “writers” have to bend over backwards to find a way to make her useful. Imagine she was a guy and didn’t bring the sex appeal and the ass shots. Disney adults would boo him in the cinema.
Then explain Hawkeye
