U.S. officials familiar with the planning said options for “reclaiming” the vital waterway include close cooperation with Panama’s military and, absent that, possible war.

  • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Can our military just step up already and take these fuckers out? They are duty-bound to refuse unlawful orders.

    And these people are fucking traitors.

    • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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      Even if his orders are lawful, they’ve sworn an oath to defend the constitution from all threats foreign and domestic: they’re duty bound to engage him in the exact same way they do with a combatant from Isis or something. Donald Trump is an enemy to the US.

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      Because you can’t really invade a place full of white people like Greenland or Canada. Even the diehard Trump fans would probably not be okay with that. On the other hand, a country full of poor, brown people that have only ever been fucked over by America? Well shit, we can’t wait to bomb them! George Carlin explained it, America loves bombing brown people. Anyone in the US military with the slightest amount of backbone will not follow these illegal orders. See the Nuremberg Trials if you’re not sure what an illegal order looks like. They aren’t even trying with a WMD hoax, this is just an illegal invasion.

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        Even the diehard Trump fans would probably not be okay

        Given the number of diehard trump fans who wish harm to other members of the US and agitate for an internal war, I doubt this is true for the majority of them.

  • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    People of the US military: look up “illegal orders” and “Nürnberg” as long as you can find those terms.

  • then-President Jimmy Carter transferred sovereignty to Panama in the late 1970s.

    We’re literally just invading another country to take their property. Which to be fair IS a long rich American tradition, but gawdamnit it has to stop.

  • @MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip
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    I miss when I would wake up and check the news and nothing particularly crazy was going on. Like you would click on the TV and they are talking about a zoo that recently got a baby giraffe or something.

  • @peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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    Wow. Really? Like really really?

    We’re now gonna massacre a bunch of Panamanians for a shipping canal? Fuck.

    Well, now that they clearly have great OPSEC, I hope Panama sabotages the hell out of it.

    • I think Panama did say they’d destroy the canal before they’d allow it to be taken. I took a cursory look for that tidbit, but the news feeds about the canal are blown up at the moment.

      • If I had to wager a guess, destroying the canal wouldn’t stop a takeover. Rebuilding it would be a fraction of the price of the war.

        And don’t try telling me that the cost of the war will be much higher than just the military occupation because of shipping costs going up from the canal being shut down, the cost of actually maintaining the place, riots, etc because the idiots who want this wouldn’t listen for long enough to think about that anyway.

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          The cost of rebuilding would be more than just the cost for materials and labor. They’d also have to deal with a generation of vengeful Panamanian guerillas killing the construction workers, sabotaging equipment, and sinking ships.

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    It’s a matter of time before Trump gets us into a war on our own hemisphere, and when he does, he will impose a draft. I wish some “journalist” (there aren’t really any left any more) would ask him about his opinions on forcing a draft.

    I have a 25 year old son, and there is no way I’ll allow him to be dragged off by the government to die in a Trump War whose main objective is to destroy America for Putin, so Trump, Musk and their friends can loot America. There is no way my son will be joining a Trump military for any reason.

    • 🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱
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      Same, putting my kids on the first flight out of the country if I even catch a whiff of Mango Mussolini thinking about imposing a draft.

      • @xye@lemm.ee
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        I have to ask. Isn’t this just leaving the hard part to the poor and unfortunate? Why not have them stay and help stop this thing instead? Would you rather they come back once the dirty part is over? I’m legitimately curious, I do not understand, thank you

        • 🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱
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          I’ll answer with an honest answer back to you. How would they help if they are drafted and sent to the front lines of some war? If they don’t follow orders they are court marshaled and sent to prison. Should I as a parent allow that to happen to my children? I’m sorry for the poor and unfortunate, and if there was anything else I could do for others I would, but my priorities will always be my family first, and the rest of society second.

          Look up what they used to do to German soldiers who refused to follow orders during WW2 because they didn’t agree with their orders, same was done to conscripted (other type of draft) Russian soldiers.