• @Thrillhouse@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    People are checking out because the middle class is non-existent. It doesn’t matter how hard you work - the the prospect of getting ahead, owning a home, retirement is out of reach for the vast majority of people.

    People can work hard and stress themselves out or they can check out of the system and achieve largely the same result.

    This is about the failures of late stage capitalism. To claim the issue is free healthcare is gaslighting.

    • Jerkface (any/all)
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      4818 days ago

      “Middle class” contrasts with “upper class” and “lower class”, not with “ruling class” and “working class”; it’s the wrong perspective.

      • @FragrantGarden@lemmy.today
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        1417 days ago

        It may be today, but a strong middle class is what placates the working class. Give em something to shoot for so they won’t shoot you.

        • Jerkface (any/all)
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          17 days ago

          “Middle class” IS working class. It’s a false distinction that only serves to undermine our only tool against the ruling class, class solidarity. (I think we’re kind of saying the same thing.)

    • Ulrich
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      317 days ago

      This is about the failures successes of late stage capitalism

      FTFY

      • Lightor
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        2617 days ago

        Which the parents pay for… They just don’t know what words mean anymore.

  • @Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    12818 days ago

    Look up the book “Hell’s Angel’s” by Hunter Thompson.

    There’s a section in the book where he writes about the economics of being a hippie/biker/artist circa 1970.

    A biker could work for six months as a Union stevedore and save up enough money to go on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boyfreind.

    • @Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee
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      4817 days ago

      That’s what these guys grew up seeing and reading, huh? So they’re trying to govern with assumptions that have not held true for decades.

      • Bakkoda
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        2417 days ago

        No they are not governing. They are attempting to rule using rhetoric they know sticks with older generations. That’s it. Just gotta keep people voting and they will say and do anything to get those votes.

      • @Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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        817 days ago

        Nah, young folk these days just don’t want to work. They need to buckle down, pull on the ol’ bootstraps, and work a part time job at the factory while going to college. No reason that shouldn’t support a family of 4 with a single income!

    • @Belgdore@lemm.ee
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      217 days ago

      I would take anything Hunter S. Thompson wrote with a massive grain of salt. He’s fun to read but gonzo journalism isn’t a great source for facts.

      • @Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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        917 days ago

        First, he wrote the book in the 1970s. People would have noticed if he was wildly off base.

        Second, you can do a quick search and prove his numbers were correct.

  • TooManyFoods
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    7918 days ago

    Where are they getting free healthcare from? I’d like it. Oh does Canada have this problem? No? Huh

    • @Thrillhouse@lemmy.world
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      2217 days ago

      We still have widespread disengagement in Canada too because the problem isn’t the healthcare.

      The problem is wage suppression and corporate greed.

  • @snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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    5418 days ago

    Where are they getting the money for the games? Those are expensive as shit, I’m still making do with games I bought decades ago because I can’t afford new ones.

    How are they eating? Food is fucking expensive, are they getting free food as well?

    How are they paying rent? Have to have a roof over your head and electricity in your walls to play video games all day.

    This mother fucker thinks all guys are like his son, lazy mother fuckers mooching off their parents. What a dumb, ignorant moron.

  • ZeroOne
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    5117 days ago

    Free Healthcare ? In Amerikkka ?

    Since when ?

    • @Botzo@lemmy.world
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      1517 days ago

      Only when you’re so poor (earn less than 15k/yr out 21k a year in some states) not having it functionally costs more money, but only so long as you follow all the bureaucratic rules to continually prove eligibility.

      And don’t forget, you still have to find healthcare providers that accept Medicaid, pay copays, etc.

      • @scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        In some states they don’t even have that. I’ve been seeking disability for six years in America for a partially broken back, with ten years of documented ongoing treatment at this point from childhood and my parent’s medical coverage (I can walk, but I’m stooped most of the time and get to live with chronic pain, yippee) and because I couldn’t get by on nothing, and got a part time gig that didn’t cross the threshold I still got my benefits denied. So like, in all technicality, though I see myself as an able-bodied young man and pursue an active lifestyle to make sure my weight doesn’t cause my spine to degrade and leave me fully paralyzed, I’m not even who this guy’s talking about, and I can’t get benefits through the current system. Now I’m just uninsured and planning to immigrate for education (and healthcare).

  • HubertManne
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    4117 days ago

    So us person here. This free healthcare he speaks of is news to me.

  • @Jaysyn@lemmy.world
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    3917 days ago

    This is rich coming from someone that has literally never worked a days labor in their lives.

    Young men as a cohort have a 90% employment rate.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
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    3517 days ago

    Theres nowhere in the country that has legitimate free healthcare, and only a small handful of states that have healthcare for those below the poverty line.

    Where are these supposed young people just living it up off free healthcare?

  • @PineRune@lemmy.world
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    3318 days ago

    Free healthcare doesn’t pay rent or utilities. I would love to stay at home and play video games regardless of my healthcare status, but I simply couldn’t afford to.

    • @whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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      1617 days ago

      Become a congressperson, they get Medicare for life just like every other citizen should have but don’t because Congress will grant it to themselves but not everyone else. If it’s good enough for them it should be good enough to cover us.

    • Buelldozer
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      1317 days ago

      Get elected to the US Congress. They don’t do anything and get 6 figure salaries AND free Healthcare!