Outlook (new) (a webversion in a wrapper, so it only has half of the functions, but they force you to use it while planning to deprecate the proper version)
But it comes with new features too, like an ad at the top of your message list every time you open it! We should consider ourselves lucky that they’re giving this to us for free!
/s
The moment they made me jump through hoops to use the old mail app instead of using the one with ads is the moment I switched to thunderbird.
I plan to switch to Linux but I am very busy right now and installing a new OS onto my PC isn’t something I can do.
Why does it matter if it’s a web version, if all mail messages today are HTML anyway?
It’s actually the only program on the desktop that have valid reasons to be web-based.
It matters, because it’s not about messages, it’s about the interface and all the logic which was built over a long period of time. Having an OS-native gui is better because it’s faster, it’s “already there” and not just loads, and it’s all done in the desktop app already.
As a good comparison - what would you choose for any service on your smartphone - an app or a really nice mobile website?
Think that pisses me off the most is how you can’t uninstall it. First of all, I don’t even really need a mail app on my computer. If I do, I’ll install one I actually want to use.
Look I hate windows too but every app featured here can be uninstalled. The real shame is you can’t add a signature to meeting invites correctly unless you copy/paste won’t manually, focused inbox, you can’t move a message to a different folder from the message view pop up, as far as I know the add-on center is gone and so is the VBA scripting, its just garbage and Outlook Classic (hey MS look thats how you rename shit) was actually decent. Thunderbird is superior to both tho.
As a help desk worker this shit is so fucking annoying.
Oof hell desk, yea I left that behind as fast as I could. It was nice and all being chill not worrying about budgets, policies, “IT business alignment” and such
But god damn if I had to deal with Beatrice’s weekly hour+ password reset call one more time I was going to lose it lol
The basic Mail app in Windows 10 is still the baseline I compare every other email client to, and I’ve yet to find anything I like as much. Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, it only ever ran under Windows, and for stupid reasons, it was deprecated and now if you try to launch it, it exits and launches Outlook (New), which is a horrible email client.
Outlook (new) is not even a “mail client” at all. It’s an Edge “webview” web app. Adding an account to this “app” actually allows outlook.com the website to sync your entire mailbox, read its contents, and “share” all of that data with their (last checked, could have changed since) 798 “data partners”.
Install Thunderbird.
Before someone says “it’s not pretty enough, I don’t like it”, if the price for privacy is a shiny theme, I’ve got nothing dumb enough to say to you. You’re beyond helping and you’re not worth my time.
Edit ^ that last bit wasn’t about you, person I responded to, just realized it sounded like it was.
But Thunderbird is also technically a web app? It’s UI is literally made in (X)HTML/CSS/JS.
The message viewing component is, of course. Emails are html. The application itself is not a web app.
What about the inevitable (based on years of development experience):
Outlook (new) New - Final - 2025-04-17 - THIS IS THE ONE.lnkMy team at work is always confused when I ask if they’re using Outlook or New Outlook (new) New
