People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say “man, whyd you do that” thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.
This. I’ve got a fair few trans friends, and we’re all in agreement - unless it’s obvious we’re talking in gendered terms based on context, “dude”, “man”, “bro”, etc are just interjections, not reference to someone’s gender. And, when we are talking in gendered contexts, we tend to be pretty clear about that.
Idk about the rest of it but dude and guys can totally be gender neutral and i hate people that dont get that. Its such a bitchy thing to get mad about
Also queen, “James, you’re such an Excel queen”. I’ve seen this sort of use many times at my workplace. It doesn’t have anything to do with gender or sexual orientation.
It’s obviously more niche than “dude” but I’ve seen it before.
doesn’t understand word is being used in a non-gendered manner… The verb is completely detached from the noun in normal use. You could say Elon musk is the world’s richest bitch and that would not be even insulting. That would be a snide way to say he is exceedingly wealthy. If I said Elon Musk that rich bitch? then again, bitch would not be being used in a derogatory or gendered manner. If I said Elon musk is a massive bitch. Now we have finally arrived at an insult. Still not gendered.
But like…I think it goes beyond just gender specificity & is also an attempt to address the embedded patriarchy of our culture & language. Those interjection words being male of center as a default is something I wanna unpack, too.🤷🏽
As another comment said “queen” being gender neutral and coming from a word used for females originally. Also patriarchy is embedded in language but you cant really change it. Its always better to agree on a gender neutral phrase than have an infight(classic left wing moment…) and then revert to the previous gendered language because of it. We should all just speak hungarian, barely any gendered stuff in there(def not biased because its my mother tounge)
Thats a joke right? Because youre getting downvoted, but you yourself called me bro without knowing my gender so it must be a joke or youre the most oblivious person ive ever seen.
Would be a classic facebook moment. Gender neutral guy is like singular they/them. “That is not natural bla bla bla, use he/she” and then you ask them “do you know who alex is” and they respond “no, i dont know who they are” which is using singular they or just assume their gender.
People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say “man, whyd you do that” thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.
Whatever you say, girliepop
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Yo, something like that, send nudes
They look hot
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Niiiiice. This is like porn in the 00s.
Yours:
Mine: 8=========>
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Is this the latest iteration of “tits or GTFO”? I haven’t been keeping up
It was a dad joke and you missed it.
This. I’ve got a fair few trans friends, and we’re all in agreement - unless it’s obvious we’re talking in gendered terms based on context, “dude”, “man”, “bro”, etc are just interjections, not reference to someone’s gender. And, when we are talking in gendered contexts, we tend to be pretty clear about that.
It’s really great that you have friends who are in a good enough place to not worry about that stuff.
This is really great news to me as I am all about telling my dudes it’s Wednesday!
Idk about the rest of it but dude and guys can totally be gender neutral and i hate people that dont get that. Its such a bitchy thing to get mad about
Also queen, “James, you’re such an Excel queen”. I’ve seen this sort of use many times at my workplace. It doesn’t have anything to do with gender or sexual orientation.
It’s obviously more niche than “dude” but I’ve seen it before.
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Claims to understand language
doesn’t understand word is being used in a non-gendered manner… The verb is completely detached from the noun in normal use. You could say Elon musk is the world’s richest bitch and that would not be even insulting. That would be a snide way to say he is exceedingly wealthy. If I said Elon Musk that rich bitch? then again, bitch would not be being used in a derogatory or gendered manner. If I said Elon musk is a massive bitch. Now we have finally arrived at an insult. Still not gendered.
Edit side to snide
Bitchy is also unisex
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And pussy, right?
But like…I think it goes beyond just gender specificity & is also an attempt to address the embedded patriarchy of our culture & language. Those interjection words being male of center as a default is something I wanna unpack, too.🤷🏽
Then let’s also start using sis and girl when referring to men. BOOM EQUALITY!
Lol Elon Musk would probably start banning all users who did this on Twitter if it gained any traction.
As another comment said “queen” being gender neutral and coming from a word used for females originally. Also patriarchy is embedded in language but you cant really change it. Its always better to agree on a gender neutral phrase than have an infight(classic left wing moment…) and then revert to the previous gendered language because of it. We should all just speak hungarian, barely any gendered stuff in there(def not biased because its my mother tounge)
Yes! Thank you for stating this.
Human … man, it’s a just shorter version 😉
Is woman short for womb-man?
No, the etymology is actually completely distinct from the gendered usage of “man.” It’s actually quite interesting.
https://www.etymologynerd.com/blog/man-vs-woman
gay men call each other sis and girl all the time too, for alternatives that go in reverse
me@lemmy~$ man
Bro y u so wrong
Thats a joke right? Because youre getting downvoted, but you yourself called me bro without knowing my gender so it must be a joke or youre the most oblivious person ive ever seen.
Is jokes
I hope they’re joking, otherwise they need to get back to Facebook with the rest of their ilk.
Would be a classic facebook moment. Gender neutral guy is like singular they/them. “That is not natural bla bla bla, use he/she” and then you ask them “do you know who alex is” and they respond “no, i dont know who they are” which is using singular they or just assume their gender.
Wat?