• CrookedSerpent [she/her]
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    Like actually? just dont use AMAB and AFAB as nouns like that, its basically the same thing as saying “biological males” and “biological females” and just as impresice. ln your comment there you could have literally just said

    So this law bans

    • jack off when cum
    • Gay sex when cum
    • sex where the one person is post menopausal or some shit, if the other person cum
    • lesbian sex where someone is non-reproductive for any reason, if someone else cum. including the rhythm method
    • period sex

    and conveyed the exact same message without using that stupid ass dehumanizing lanaguge Hope that helps ----

    • glans [it/its]
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      so you think everyone produces semen when they cum?

      maybe you didn’t understand this law is specifically about semen

          • ComradeMonotreme [she/her, he/him]
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            A popular scientific theory in the middle ages was that women had their own internal sperm (from internal testicles) and required orgasm to conceive.

            Both are wrong but the first seems logical with the knowkedge of the time and the latter good intentioned.

              • ComradeMonotreme [she/her, he/him]
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                I heard it on We’re Not So Different which is a podcast with Dr Eleanor Janega Medieval Historian (and Luke Waters Star Wars podcaster), there’s a few episodes on sex specifically.

                She also has a book “The once and future Sex: going medieval on women’s role in society”. I haven’t read it though (it’s sitting on my bookshelf.

                Also both are Marxist-Leninists and Historical Materialists.

            • glans [it/its]
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              22 months ago

              Am also on that podcast shit and IIRC the part you forgot to mention is thatremoved CANNOT result in conception. No consent = no orgasm = no conception

              pregnancy = evidence of consent

              “the woman’s body has a way of shutting it down” or whatever the stupid quote was from 10 years ago

              • ComradeMonotreme [she/her, he/him]
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                Well perhaps not good intentioned, as you mention there’s nefarious aspects to it. But also more weirder too than random modern conservative misogyny. Like how Dr Janega points out it was medically recommended for young widows to get digitally stimulated by a female midwife to release the sperm lest their “womb suffocate” and kill them.

      • CrookedSerpent [she/her]
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        132 months ago

        then say CUM ROPES then or something holy fuck. not using AMAB and AFAB as nouns challange realy do be impossible ig

        • glans [it/its]
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          82 months ago

          wow I’ve been so educated about being too “imprecise” i wish i was enlightened about “precision” like you are.

        • glans [it/its]
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          62 months ago

          would that it be the issue.

          and even more complicated by, as was pointed out, the issue of vasectomy. it is semen but it is not “genetic material”.

          like i said before this what not intended to describe in detail every specific situation that could arise, but to describe SOME OF THE KINDS of things that are contemplated by the law. the law is formulated in a cis-centric manner on purpose.

          Was my list comprehensive? NO.

          Didn’t realize yall needed this: I am not a lawyer. Moreever I am not a Person Who Is A Sitting Judge On The US Supreme Court. (Would not want to “dehumanize” by referring to a “supreme court judge”— I’m learning.) Super apologize for the confusion.

          IT IS A STUPID LAW there is no way to talk about it that isn’t stupid.