• @Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
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      -622 hours ago

      Ignoring the “lesser evil” route got us Trump and his cabinet. Good for us. Things will get much worse much more quickly. There’s not going to be a revolution or some great reset. Just oppression. Hard miserable oppression.

        • TonyOstrich
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          16 hours ago

          So you are saying things would be exactly as bad had Harris or Biden won?

          • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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            24 hours ago

            I’m saying both would’ve committed the same crime, and killed just as many Palestinians.

            I’m a socialist. I don’t participate in the Red & Blue MAGA obsession over which flavor of demagogue should be empowered and worshipped.

            • TonyOstrich
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              14 hours ago

              That’s all well and good, but it’s also not the question I am asking. Assuming your statement is correct, are you saying everything would be just as bad as it is or is going to get with Harris or Biden?

              • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                14 hours ago

                I don’t know. I guess it depends on your demographic. I don’t see how dying under a Democrat is better than dying under a Republican. Once it’s bad enough, the degree of how bad between the two is irrelevant.

                If the only options are Hitler or Mussolini, the only correct choice is to fight the entire system.

                • TonyOstrich
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                  12 hours ago

                  Do you actually think the same number of people would die under Biden or Harris? Assuming your comparison is entirely correct the conclusion implies a singular choice. Fighting the entire system can happen in every scenario. If voting for the lesser of two evils is able to reduce the harm to a few people or buy time to fight the system then that seems like the better choice. Mussolini only caused the deaths of thousands, not the millions Hitler did. Maybe at that level those are just statistics, each and every person between those numbers has friends and family that would disagree.

                  “While evil triumphs and your rigid ideals crumbles into blood stained dust the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns”.

                  I despised Biden and Harris. Voting for them brought me no joy. However I can say that I am already seeing additional harm being done that was not before Trump won.

                  • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                    12 hours ago

                    Is there anything the Dems could possibly do that you would be unable to stomach? Unable to participate in to any degree?

                    If yes, why isn’t it this? If no, you are in a cult.

        • @Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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          07 hours ago

          That’s outright not true. You can claim Kamala wouldn’t have tried hard enough to stop the genocide but she did NOT openly support it.