• @teslasaur@lemmy.world
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        -11 month ago

        That’s definitely one way of making sure that a woman will never win again in athletics.

        They did do that in golf, of course with handicaps like a shorter tee off for women, so not a fair competition.

        • Flying Squid
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          11 month ago

          You’re saying that even the weakest biologically male athlete could beat the strongest biologically female athlete?

          Because otherwise, “never win again” seems kind of unlikely.

        • Natanox
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          01 month ago

          Forcing a girl to play against boys and use their changing room is pretty fucked up dude. Don’t make yourself look even more like a dick.

            • Natanox
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              01 month ago

              Oh, right! They can just stop doing what they love! I’m sorry, my empathy-riddled ass didn’t think about this obvious solution.

              • @teslasaur@lemmy.world
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                1 month ago

                No? They can play with the boys. Changing rooms can be arranged. Why is it important for a trans-girl who went through male puberty to play with girls that are smaller and physically weaker?

                I should probably clarify that i mean compete in competitions, dont care in the slightest who or how they want to practice. That’s just fair.

                • Natanox
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                  21 month ago

                  I see, so it’s an information problem.

                  Trans girls are not stronger than other girls. Any increased muscle mass vanishes with hormone therapy as the testosterone supporting it goes away. Likewise the body remodels stuff like cartilages as all of this is influenced by hormones. That’s why Olympia goes so overboard with hormone tests, even forcing cis-women to do invasive measures to reduce their natural testosterone levels.

                  The only difference caused by puberty that are irreversible are:

                  • How thick bones are & how they formed
                  • How you sound
                  • Where you grow how much hair

                  And of those three ONLY the first can be of any value in any argument. And definitely not for badminton. Uninformed bullshit arguments cause WAY more problems for cis-women in sports than they could ever solve. There’s nothing fair about that way of arguing.

                  • @teslasaur@lemmy.world
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                    01 month ago

                    Trans girls are not stronger than other girls. Any increased muscle mass vanishes with hormone therapy as the testosterone supporting it goes away.

                    Yeah, but then you’d need rules for checking that too.

                    And of those three ONLY the first can be of any value

                    Yes, and one is enough for making competitions unfair.

                • Flying Squid
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                  01 month ago

                  How would you propose women prove they are not trans and can thus play on the women’s team?

                  • @teslasaur@lemmy.world
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                    1 month ago

                    I’m not qualified to answer that. I assume a doctor might be able to answer.

                    But not having a dick is a start.