• @Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    113 days ago

    two parties do not constitute a political whole.

    having only two parties in a democracy is a sign of weakness and sickness in the political system.

    political parties representing people are not “fractures”.

    • @1luv8008135@lemmy.world
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      013 days ago

      I never said they do. I just don’t think this is the time to overhaul the whole system when the first priority should be to steady the ship. You can’t fix things if you’re just struggling to stay afloat. Fixing things requires a certain level of stability.

      • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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        So when is the time? The midterms? The presidential election?

        Reforming the democrats in four easy steps:

        1. Now’s not the time

        2. Not this year

        3. This is really a bad time, okay?

        4. Definitely not this year, are you crazy?

      • @EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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        Liberals have had over eight years to steady the ship, and they’ve spent that time alienating marginalized people and progressives and going farther and farther right with afaik no real resistance to trump. They’ve spent those eight years proving that we can’t trust them at all to stop fascism or repair its damage. We should probably be pushing progressive democrats to start a new party with other more left people (though I’d fully expect republicans and the remaining democrats to team up and destroy their campaign so idk)

      • @Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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        113 days ago

        “I just don’t think this is the time to overhaul the whole system”

        how do you contend encouraging political stability overhauling the system?

        "the first priority should be to steady the ship.

        steadying the ship is literally what this protest is about, providing stability while the executive branch is trying to conquer and invalidate the judicial and legislative.branches.

        “You can’t fix things if you’re just struggling to stay afloat.”

        yes you can. That’s what SOS calls, bilge pumps, pontoons, tar, patches and welds are for, to fix problens on boats.

        you’re advocating to give up and sink when you can repair things.

        ridiculous.

        “Fixing things requires a certain level of stability.”

        the necessary level of stability is far below what you clearly misunderstand.

        We have that stability, what we need is political, legal and judicial actions liked the ones happening every day now fighting against the executive branch.

        The literal nationwide protests by tens of thousands of citizens, judges, politicians and lawyers constitute that saving grace.

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            this article is literally about Bernie Sanders and AOC, the exact opposite force of trump.

            you have the paragons you desire and insist you won’t support because of the color of their shirts.

            too many Americans are such laxy defeatists.

        • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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          Be me

          Paramedic

          Patient is very sick, circling the drain

          Oh God oh fuck I can’t treat them and stabilize them, they’re unstable

          • @Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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            212 days ago

            haha, great example.

            “Sadly, there’s nothing we can do. Our training, available equipment, medications and infrastructure are only for stable patients.”

    • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      012 days ago

      What Bernie and AOC are begging of you is not to make the right move, but just to make a move. Get off your ass and run for office, any office, school board, city council, county board, local transit authority, state assembly member, Congress, fucking anything. You don’t have to choose the right party, worry about that later, the right choice is to just get out there and start running on your platform. Though they do strongly imply that it would be very, very helpful to primary the centrist, corporate Dems.