At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.
It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.
I don’t need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.
Really I shouldn’t need the subscription for GC ports either. What’s wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that’s not monthly recurring revenue.)
Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.
I have no problem paying for games when they’re sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that’s the case for Nintendo’s library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.
Sure, but that’s a different issue; I agree with that. Don’t forget that if you even are allowed to ‘buy’ them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.
They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don’t see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.
That would work if serial numbers weren’t visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I’m they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won’t bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.
I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.
I mean, it’s Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words “Nintendo”, “Mario” and such, they’d do it without hesitation…
unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what’s going on
Lemmy on Nintendo: “Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I’m entirely justified in pirating everything.”
Does it make sense? Emulation is going to happen one way or another. If Nintendo sold a GC controller that is PC compatible, they’d at least make some money from those buyers.
It will. But for the first run you don’t want people buying the console and paying for the switch GameCube access to have to ability to buy a GC controller. It’s like how for sports teams season ticket holders usually get some first access to buy playoff tickets.
Or search on Etsy for a refurbished controller and just use an adapter to connect it to PC. Though many sellers only sell Phob GCC. It’s a modded GC controller with a custom motherboard. It uses Hall Effect sensors so the sticks will never ever experience drift. It’s expensive though. Like here is a fancy one for $325 https://sagecustomcontrollers.com/products/phob-gcc
Initially. Still annoying but title is misleading.
I need a fucking online subscription to buy a controller???
At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.
It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.
I am using my Switch just fine without an online subscription. I guess Nintendo thinks I am using it wrong.
Right, but he sub is shareable and a pretty cheap barrier for entry… and required to play those GameCube games anyway.
I don’t need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.
Really I shouldn’t need the subscription for GC ports either. What’s wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that’s not monthly recurring revenue.)
Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.
I have no problem paying for games when they’re sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that’s the case for Nintendo’s library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.
Sure, but that’s a different issue; I agree with that. Don’t forget that if you even are allowed to ‘buy’ them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.
Can you think of a better way to keep it mostly out of the hands of scalpers?
They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don’t see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.
That would work if serial numbers weren’t visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I’m they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won’t bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.
Make enough of them that scalping isn’t profitable.
That’s a fine solution long term I guess, but things take time to be made.
Put the onus on the retailer to limit how many units a single customer can purchase. Why would Nintendo give a single fuck about scalpers, anyway?
I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.
I mean, it’s Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words “Nintendo”, “Mario” and such, they’d do it without hesitation…
That’s been standard for the switch retro controller releases. And yes it’s been bullshit the entire time. I would have liked an N64 one.
But you don’t have the sub (cheap when sharing a family pack) so you can’t play the N64 games anyway.
How I can’t play N64 games without a subscription? 🏴☠️
Because you need it to play them on Switch.
unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what’s going on
Yes, it’s the same for their other classic controllers.
A controller that is useful only when you have that online subscription to play the back catalogue, yes.
The new switch has a whole button that doesn’t work without a paid online subscription 🤪
Lemmy 24/7: “if its free, you’re the product”
Lemmy on Nintendo: “Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I’m entirely justified in pirating everything.”
Lol yeah. It makes sense. You don’t want your peripheral for the console to sell out to buyers that just want to use it for emulation.
Does it make sense? Emulation is going to happen one way or another. If Nintendo sold a GC controller that is PC compatible, they’d at least make some money from those buyers.
It will. But for the first run you don’t want people buying the console and paying for the switch GameCube access to have to ability to buy a GC controller. It’s like how for sports teams season ticket holders usually get some first access to buy playoff tickets.
But… I want it for emulation… Any good reliable 3rd party out there?
PowerA did a good wireless one that also had a second Z button on the other side
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NYXI Wizard maybe
Or search on Etsy for a refurbished controller and just use an adapter to connect it to PC. Though many sellers only sell Phob GCC. It’s a modded GC controller with a custom motherboard. It uses Hall Effect sensors so the sticks will never ever experience drift. It’s expensive though. Like here is a fancy one for $325 https://sagecustomcontrollers.com/products/phob-gcc
Well that got me all worked up for no reason, didn’t it.
Thanks for the clarification.
COME ON, OP!