Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Twitter (now X) and Square (now Block), sparked a weekend’s worth of debate around intellectual property, patents, and copyright, with a characteristically terse post declaring, “delete all IP law.”

X’s current owner Elon Musk quickly replied, “I agree.”

  • snooggums
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    18 days ago

    People made stuff before patents existed. In many cases there were certain people and groups that were sought out because they simply did things better than others who made the same things.

    Knowing how someone else makes something doesn’t mean you can make it as well as the other person. Making quality goods is the same as cooking meals, the people and techniques are far more important than the designs.

    • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      318 days ago

      That was fine before mass production made perfect copies possible on an industrial scale.

      You don’t need the person when you can copy the object and produce it at volume and scale because you already own the factories.

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        -118 days ago

        Mass production copies are far from perfect. Like the dollar store version of anything is shit tier even if it looks the same. I’m not talking snobby high end or anything, just well made vs trash tier.

        Hell, most of the goods we buy are made by a factory contracted with the person who designed and distributes the materials. That was true before we moved manufacturing overseas too. Cars were one of the few factories that were owned and operated by the companies that design and distribute the goods.

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      18 days ago

      People made stuff before patents existed.

      People also didn’t make stuff before patents existed. That’s why they exist.

      Knowing how someone else makes something doesn’t mean you can make it as well as the other person.

      Not necessarily, but often you can. You also don’t have to, you just have to make it cheaper, which you can because you are benefitting from someone else’s investment.

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        18 days ago

        People also didn’t make stuff before patents existed. That’s why they exist.

        What didn’t they make?

        Not necessarily, but often you can. You also don’t have to, you just have to make it cheaper, which you can because you are benefitting from someone else’s investment.

        How many restaurants make fries? How many companies make a drink called cola? Are they all identical?

        Why do they keep making making those prodicts when they aren’t covered by patents?

        • Ulrich
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          -218 days ago

          I don’t know. They didn’t make them.

          • snooggums
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            018 days ago

            So you are assuming they didn’t make them for reasons that didn’t exist at the time.

            Ok.

            • Ulrich
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              018 days ago

              No. I’m assuming that they didn’t make them based on simple and rational thought processes that I’ve already outlined several times.

              Does the fact that the richest billionaires in the world all want to get rid of them not concern you at all?

              • snooggums
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                018 days ago

                I assume that the way that Dorsey and Musk want to ‘get rid of them’ means for everyone else and will be terrible.

                But that doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that before patents and copyright people made all kinds of things and had zero reason to not make something just because someone else cpuld too. That is a made up theory of yours that has no basis in reality.