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This post is “FYI only” for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the “adult human female” dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and “civil disagreement” on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to “sort it out through discussion and voting”. However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little “sorting out” has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

Just normal terf Island things. ukkk

cw:transphobia The context

https://feddit.uk/post/27973987/16868783

The feddit admins have responded in this post:

https://piefed.social/post/691666

Admin Responses

flamingo-scant@feddit.uk 17 hours ago

To be clear, there were no posts, this is about two comments by one of our users, both of which I personally pushed back on. We’re still discussing what to do, but consensus takes time.

ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.uk 19 hours ago

Address the comments or address the defederation?

I was the Admin who was contacted by Ada and that is a mischaracterisation of what I said. Our rules still stand that we won’t allow transphobia.

Unfortunately, as the ruling on the interpretation of the law has recently changed, we are going to have to figure out how we approach this and that is going to require a consensus amongst the Admins, and an agreement on our wording going forward.

This is going to take a bit for us to work out (although not too long, we’re getting there, I have been active on Lemmy but I don’t call the shots, and we need input from all Admins) and if, in the meantime, LBZ feel we aren’t moving fast enough and they need to defederate from us then that is obviously their right.

flamingo-scant@feddit.uk 14 hours ago

The issue is this rule in c/unitedkingdom and c/uk_politics: Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.

We’ve never had anything like the current wave of transphobia, not even those pogroms back in July, so we’ve never had to work out the exact line between ‘disappointing’ and ‘horrible’. Working out that line needs discussion with all the admins, which unfortunately takes time. Regardless of what the government says or does, transphobia is not and will never be allowed here.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    676 days ago

    Blahaj: Goes out of its way to defend chasers and transphobes at the cost of a significant portion of lemmy’s trans users

    Also Blahaj: Why are we having so many issues with transphobes!

    hillary-apartment

    • whiskers165 [she/her, she/her]
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      496 days ago

      I’m a trans person new on Lemmy but I’ve felt way more at home here than on Blahaj for reasons i can’t put my finger on

      I mean this with all sincerity and no disingenuity but can you explain how Blahaj defends chasers and transphobes? The vibes were weird over there

      • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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        526 days ago

        for reasons i can’t put my finger on

        Communists tend to have principles. We die on some really dumb hills sometimes, but liberals will concede on everything all the time.

      • Beetle [hy/hym]
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        6 days ago

        I find the sexualisation of trans people on blahaj uncomfortable, and when I still was on there I saw a lot of unmoderated sexism and ableism.

        The 196 community in general has weird vibes, I’ve heard that the 196 subreddit has many vaush fans and vaush himself is just a really weird dude who normalises fetishising trans people and drawn child sexual assault material. The lemmy 196 community is a spinoff of the subreddit and the largest community on blahaj (last time I checked). I’ve had discussions with people there who linked to vaush videos as ‘source’ for why it’s ok to behave like a jerk be ableist. I think vaush is a horrible guy and his community is toxic, and some of the main posters and mods on blahaj are part of that toxic community which explains why a lot of the problematic stuff doesn’t get removed.

          • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]
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            106 days ago

            Like dil said, but if you’re still not sure, it basically means they have a kink for trans people, and as such, can tend to treat trans people as more of a sexual object for their personal gratification rather than as actual people.

          • loaExMachina [any]
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            25 days ago

            It’s like what Karaba the witch did to men, turning them into magical objects that must obey her. 196 is like transphobic Karaba.

      • Diva (she/her)
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        There’s been some bad blood since when they were federated and the (old) 196 mods were particularly shitty, example: https://hexbear.net/post/363529/3762934

        Since then there’s been new 196 mods because the old 196 tried to force-migrate the whole comm to .world.

    • WoodScientist [she/her]
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      226 days ago

      Blahaj: Goes out of its way to defend chasers and transphobes at the cost of a significant portion of lemmy’s trans users

      What did they do?

    • mendiCAN [none/use name]
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      176 days ago

      Blahaj: Goes out of its way to defend chasers and transphobes

      uh oh, do i need to retract my “based” statement? i dunno enough about blahaj maybe