• @Telorand@reddthat.com
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    222 months ago

    Good. Privacy is a fundamental right, but since that platform is regularly used to doxx people who are simply trying to exist, in addition to platforming and incubating some of the most harmful ideologies, they’ve relinquished any claims to those rights to privacy, as far as I’m concerned.

    • @cygnus@lemmy.ca
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      632 months ago

      The way you’re describing it, it sounds more like you believe privacy is a privilege, not a right.

      • Cyborganism
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        2 months ago

        You mean, people who operate a platform where people’s privacy constantly gets violated should have a right to their own privacy?

        I dunno. I understand your point, but @Telorand@reddthat.com is also kind of right.

      • @ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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        182 months ago

        lots of rights get modified, curtailed, or eliminated by the larger society based on misuse or misbehavior or other transgressions.

        (or positions of power, etc…)

      • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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        92 months ago

        All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail for them.

        I’m a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don’t feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.

        • @O4PetesSake@lemmy.world
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          42 months ago

          Those collective agreements include stipulations for what happens to someone who violates other’s rights. They lose some rights themselves.

        • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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          22 months ago

          All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away.

          I know you don’t intend for me to hear this, but I heard George Carlin as you typed that. He has a whole bit on rights vs privileges.

          • @Telorand@reddthat.com
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            12 months ago

            Oh? I’m not that familiar with his comedy, but I probably should get to know it. What little I know I like!

      • @rtxn@lemmy.world
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        82 months ago

        “Live and let live” obviously doesn’t work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn’t mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.

      • @essteeyou@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        If you’re breaking the law then you forfeit your rights in favor of some much more restrictive ones.