• @kipo@lemm.ee
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          62 months ago

          Well unlike religion, science supports this truth. Decades of science and listening to trans people and their lived experiences.

        • RedSeries (She/Her)
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          52 months ago

          Oh, are we banning Christians from bathrooms on the basis that you disagree with them? Maybe Muslims make you uncomfortable and you don’t want them near women?

          Sincerely, what is your argument here, “I don’t believe you, so what you said is invalid it’s a religion.”? Trans women are women. I don’t understand how that is a debate or why you think it’s equivalent to some religion, it’s an assertion of identity.

              • @peperonissynchr@lemmy.world
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                Can you be more civil?

                Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Lots of people think their beliefs are true even if they might not be. It’s bigoted of you to think your beliefs are absolute fact while discrediting the beliefs of others.

                Religious people use the same tactics to persecute those they disagree with.

                • @MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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                  92 months ago

                  I’m absolutely not going to tolerate intolerance. If you want to make a shitty bigoted argument, you should be prepared to be called a bigot, because that’s exactly what you are.

                  Your beliefs are not valid, and we don’t have to protect you from criticism. The existence of trans people is not a matter of fucking faith.

                  • @peperonissynchr@lemmy.world
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                    -112 months ago

                    I can tell you’re too emotional to engage in this discussion civilly, so I’m going to have to ignore you.

                    You’re allowed to be upset, but I don’t have to take your constant insults and abuse. Goodbye.

                • RedSeries (She/Her)
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                  Some people equate facts with belief. I can’t help it if you have no ability to discern the difference. If you can, then I can’t help that your beliefs make you hateful and willing to dismiss things you don’t like as “beliefs”.

                  Also…

                  It’s bigoted of you to think your beliefs are absolute fact while discrediting the beliefs of others.

                  Pot, meet kettle? Are you not doing this by your own logic?

                  Edit: Can’t see your transphobic shit anymore, thank fuck. Trans women are women. Trans does not mean not. You wouldn’t say “Cis women aren’t women” just because “Cis” comes before “women”.

                  • @peperonissynchr@lemmy.world
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                    -72 months ago

                    Yes, but if we can’t agree on what the facts are then we’re back to our beliefs.

                    Right now, even, you’re trying to espouse something that is most certainly not fact as fact which diminishes the meaning of the word entirely.

                    It also diminishes the effectiveness of arguing truth when you’re willing to lie about what’s a fact.

                    Pot, meet kettle? Are you not doing this by your own logic?

                    No, I always said you were entitled to your beliefs. If you think they are true, that’s fine. I’m not discrediting you nor do I think my beliefs are absolute fact.

    • @dissipatersshik@ttrpg.network
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      -52 months ago

      Wow, the mods literally banned this person for saying “That’s your belief and you’re entitled to it.”

      If that’s not mod abuse to support an agenda, I don’t know what is.

        • @dissipatersshik@ttrpg.network
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          Well, anyone who disagrees is banned so you don’t really get to see different perspectives.

          I guess it’s all intentional. You don’t want people discussing it because in your head the discussion is already done and you don’t want anyone to disagree with a conclusion that you like. Pretty scummy, but that’s to be expected.

          • @Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            112 months ago

            There is no point debating with people whose views exist on the same side as the nazis currently occupying the US.

            Because trans women are women.

              • @floofloof@lemmy.caOP
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                72 months ago

                Anyone who describes this as “trans” vs “normal” could do with reflecting a bit more before expecting others to engage with their views.

                • @dissipatersshik@ttrpg.network
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                  02 months ago

                  It depends on who the others are and you’re assuming I care if people engage with my views.

                  I fully expect people like you to plug your ears and try to censor any information you don’t like, regardless of its veracity.

                  • @floofloof@lemmy.caOP
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                    “People like me” being who exactly? And I’m listening. What is it you think is true information “people like me” don’t like and will censor?

            • @dissipatersshik@ttrpg.network
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              02 months ago

              Anyone who says they’re not a woman is banned so you’re never going to see people who contradict the trans agenda on these forums.