• crispy_lol [he/him]
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    932 months ago

    You guys think turning this country into broad swaths of suburbs and 10 lane interstates was bad or something?

    • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      Bro, this country is terminally fucking car brained, even among environmentalist groups. I’ve been following the CAHSR project pretty close, and the Sierra Club got the planned Los Banos (it’s a bedroom community for the bay area and a lot of super commuters live there) station shitcanned early on (because “won’t someone please think of the wetlands?!” But also we’re totally cool with the 152 bypass project and unlimited suburban expansion into the wetlands, just not anything that will actually do anything to conserve the environment long term), and also made it so that the train had to go into a corrugated metal tunnel while travelling along highway 152 to keep from hurting the birds in the wetlands. Nevermind the four lane highway right next to the train, that’s fine, cars never hurt birds, everyone knows that.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        692 months ago

        terminally fucking car brained

        Remember how quickly politicians had to walk back talk of “fifteen minute cities” because America collectively shit its pants at the thought of having to walk anywhere? sadness-abysmal

        • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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          522 months ago

          I know that was the joke but no I literally think they were afraid of the 15-minute walk. I read that only 25% of adult Americans walk for more than 10 minutes continuously in a week

          • Ms. ArmoredThirteen
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            272 months ago

            My ex spouse and I used to walk places together when we were young. An hour wasn’t all that uncommon. The instant they got a car “no I don’t want to walk”. Yeah we can walk 20min to our destination but why do that when they could spend 5min getting the car ready, 10min driving, 15min being pissed while trying to find parking, then 5min walking because that’s the closest parking space to the destination. Blew my mind, years of trying to talk them into walking with me again, never worked

          • KuroXppi [they/them]
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            192 months ago

            I saw that they thought people were going to be fined/arrested for leaving their 15 minute zones. This may have been more a thing in Australia though where we had distance-based travel restrictions and curfews during COVID lockdowns

          • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]
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            112 months ago

            i’d bike if we had infrastructure (and maintained it during the winter) but my legs would fall off if i walked that long.

            getting groceries is pushing it even with leaning on the cart.

        • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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          2 months ago

          MODEST EXERCISE?! IT’S A CONSPIRACY, BUT MUH RIGHTS, AAAAAAAA

          Tbh, I’m almost certain that was an astroturf by big oil, when it was noticing that people were not commuting and enjoying not commuting during the lock down.

          • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]
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            222 months ago

            Out of all the right-wing outrage idiocy, car dependency is the least believable to be organic.

            Rent in cities, especially walkable cities is high for a reason: they’re desirable, in-demand areas. Literally too popular for their own good.

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              102 months ago

              I pay out the ass in rent but really gas and upkeep would make up for the difference and then I’d have to drive and live somewhere worse.

        • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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          252 months ago

          car = freedom 15 minute city - > no car = no freedom

          the government is creating minute cities to take away our freedom & cars. we’ll be trapped in the cities which is what THEY want.

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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            32 months ago

            A box that you can’t stand up in, that you spend 4+ hours a day in? Freedom.

            Fresh air and being able to change directions in an instant and not spending a quarter of your waking hours cramped up? Basically prison.

        • TheaJo [she/her,comrade/them]
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          212 months ago

          you left out the middleman. it wasn’t walking everywhere that did them in, the car funded media couldn’t handle it and made a bunch of shit up about eating bugs to make it as hatable as possible

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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          132 months ago

          It’s still a conspiracy theory where I live. I occasionally see protestors protesting it, but like, the city they’re protesting in can be traversed by car in 15-30 mins lmao