I don’t think he’s guilty. The evidence is tampered, improperly collected, and flimsy. There is “reasonable” doubt, not the kind of evidence to lock someone up over. The way he was paraded around made it clear he’s just some random dude. You might find me with manifesto too lol, I also hate rich CEOs. Like half the country does.
Considering all the details that have come to light I genuinely don’t believe beyond a shadow of a doubt he’s guilty, since they want to kill him they need to convince beyond a shadow of a doubt. That said, personally? I don’t care if he did it or not, if he did, good, if he didn’t I’m glad who ever did do it got away, presuming Luigi doesn’t die for it
TBH I’d rather donate to the prosecution at this point. Leaves a bad feeling in the mouth when some rich boy murderer gets better chances just because he’s got an online following, I assume this is how people felt about OJ Simpson.
If Luigi wanted to oppose the establishment he would have shot one of the lawmakers who create and protect the broken healthcare system instead of some random goon operating in it.
It would be rare for a first degree murder, categorized by premeditation, planning, and afterthought, to not pursue the death penalty. Luigi is pleading innocent despite being caught fleeing with a gun and $20,000 cash to live off of while on the run.
The people making examples of him are the ones pushing him as some sort of saint and martyr to stoke violence and lawlessness specifically in the west.
He wasn’t caught with a gun. A cop searched his bag at the scene, took it to the station, “found” a gun in the front pocket there, and then turned it in as evidence.
So then you’re offering the alternative theory that the local cops in Altoona Pennsylvania had $20,000, a handwritten manifesto note signed by Luigi Mangione, and the murder weapon to plant?
His bag was illegally seized in the restaurant (no warrant or probable cause) and searched later, when they found a lot of convenient evidence. After a massive, sudden manhunt that was at serious risk of turning up empty-handed.
You just sent me 600+ words of pure nothing, maybe try to use your own thoughts for a change?
Warrantless searches are illegal in Pennsylvania for homes and vehicles, they’re expected to search the suspects person during an arrest. The Altoona local police don’t have any skin off their teeth if an FBI manhunt turns up empty. Yes, he did have a ton of convenient evidence, because he had been fleeing the area of the crime scene for several days without rest. Something pretty unusual among innocent people, imo.
…how do you struggle with 600 words, and yet post so much online?
I posted a link to a news story that mentioned the process of picking him up, mentioning grabbing the bag and processing it later, just as I said was done.
The People know a bad faith prosecution when they see it and are willing to pay what they can to help.
Most of the people supporting him are convinced he’s guilty, but think that his murder makes him a hero.
I don’t think he’s guilty. The evidence is tampered, improperly collected, and flimsy. There is “reasonable” doubt, not the kind of evidence to lock someone up over. The way he was paraded around made it clear he’s just some random dude. You might find me with manifesto too lol, I also hate rich CEOs. Like half the country does.
Considering all the details that have come to light I genuinely don’t believe beyond a shadow of a doubt he’s guilty, since they want to kill him they need to convince beyond a shadow of a doubt. That said, personally? I don’t care if he did it or not, if he did, good, if he didn’t I’m glad who ever did do it got away, presuming Luigi doesn’t die for it
TBH I’d rather donate to the prosecution at this point. Leaves a bad feeling in the mouth when some rich boy murderer gets better chances just because he’s got an online following, I assume this is how people felt about OJ Simpson.
the fact that he has money is irrelevant to people’s feelings about him
and… better chances? are you fucking joking? the prosecution is asking for the death penalty for (allegedly) killing 1 dude
even if he did it, that’s not justice - that’s making an example out of him… that’s retribution that far outweighs the crime
No point in arguing with someone who comes to Lemmy to support the establishment. Downvote and move on
Being against Luigi doesn’t support the establishment.
Being for Luigi doesn’t oppose it.
Homie’s comment was 100% pro establishment authoritarian baloney
If Luigi wanted to oppose the establishment he would have shot one of the lawmakers who create and protect the broken healthcare system instead of some random goon operating in it.
But he’s innocent until proven guilty
The bad faith prosecution is proof they don’t care.
They arrested a patsy.
We’ll see what the jury decides, but the evidence against him is overwhelming and he has no alibi.
It would be rare for a first degree murder, categorized by premeditation, planning, and afterthought, to not pursue the death penalty. Luigi is pleading innocent despite being caught fleeing with a gun and $20,000 cash to live off of while on the run.
The people making examples of him are the ones pushing him as some sort of saint and martyr to stoke violence and lawlessness specifically in the west.
He wasn’t caught with a gun. A cop searched his bag at the scene, took it to the station, “found” a gun in the front pocket there, and then turned it in as evidence.
So then you’re offering the alternative theory that the local cops in Altoona Pennsylvania had $20,000, a handwritten manifesto note signed by Luigi Mangione, and the murder weapon to plant?
I’m going from what his lawyers said, per this story: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/us/luigi-mangione-evidence-illegal-search
His bag was illegally seized in the restaurant (no warrant or probable cause) and searched later, when they found a lot of convenient evidence. After a massive, sudden manhunt that was at serious risk of turning up empty-handed.
You just sent me 600+ words of pure nothing, maybe try to use your own thoughts for a change?
Warrantless searches are illegal in Pennsylvania for homes and vehicles, they’re expected to search the suspects person during an arrest. The Altoona local police don’t have any skin off their teeth if an FBI manhunt turns up empty. Yes, he did have a ton of convenient evidence, because he had been fleeing the area of the crime scene for several days without rest. Something pretty unusual among innocent people, imo.
…how do you struggle with 600 words, and yet post so much online?
I posted a link to a news story that mentioned the process of picking him up, mentioning grabbing the bag and processing it later, just as I said was done.
Here’s another, where his defense attorney talks about how his backpack was searched away from the restaurant where he was arrested before the evidence was found. Unfortunately, it also has some words: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/23/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-trial-evidence
Marx and Engels were both rich.