which, taken with the actual contents of Ottoboy’s reply, gave me the impression that Ottoboy was saying that porn only exists out of a profit motive. But we don’t need to look to a hypothetical future communist society for counterexamples because I guarantee you the vast majority of people writing slashfic on AO3 or whatever aren’t making money off of it and have no expectation that they will.
Oh, absolutely, porn does not exist solely due to profit motive.
But authors writing and distributing lemon stories or Yuri manga, or random exhibitionists posting photos or videos are fundamentally not the same thing as a Porn Industry. These things that exist without profit motive exist now just as they would under Communism, yet there is also an incredibly predatory industry which produces incredible amounts of highly varied content with the goal of creating customers who come back repeatedly.
Once again, we circle back to this all being a product of the environment.
Yeah I agree with everything you’re saying here (I absolutely want the porn industry annihilated) so I think we’re on the same page now. Thanks for being patient and talking this through with me.
I think it’s important to look at this comment in light of what it responds to and disagrees with:
which, taken with the actual contents of Ottoboy’s reply, gave me the impression that Ottoboy was saying that porn only exists out of a profit motive. But we don’t need to look to a hypothetical future communist society for counterexamples because I guarantee you the vast majority of people writing slashfic on AO3 or whatever aren’t making money off of it and have no expectation that they will.
Oh, absolutely, porn does not exist solely due to profit motive.
But authors writing and distributing lemon stories or Yuri manga, or random exhibitionists posting photos or videos are fundamentally not the same thing as a Porn Industry. These things that exist without profit motive exist now just as they would under Communism, yet there is also an incredibly predatory industry which produces incredible amounts of highly varied content with the goal of creating customers who come back repeatedly.
Once again, we circle back to this all being a product of the environment.
Yeah I agree with everything you’re saying here (I absolutely want the porn industry annihilated) so I think we’re on the same page now. Thanks for being patient and talking this through with me.
I’m glad we hashed it out! Always happy to come to a good conclusion.