• @petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    If you drive down far enough, I don’t think “wet” even remains to be a property something can have. As was mentioned, what is wetness to an individual molecule? It must be surrounded? Are all molecules “wet” with air, then?

    “Wet” as a concept I think is really only useful to people communicating to each other what to expect. For instance, if I asked what was in the fridge, and you said “nothing”, it would be weird if I came to correct you: “duh, actually, there is a speck of dust in the corner. And not only that, it’s actually completely full! Of air.” This is because what you meant was, “to eat.”

    A “wet” towel will feel damp and watery to a person picking it up in a way almost indistinguishable from water itself, and this is enough to say that both are wet. But, if I had spilled water, and you wanted to know how many things had gotten wet—well, these are a different set of expectations, and so maybe I wouldn’t count the water.

    • @REDACTED@infosec.pub
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      12 days ago

      Are all molecules “wet” with air, then?

      If we come up with a definition for this process, then yes, why not.

      A “wet” towel will feel damp and watery to a person picking it up in a way almost indistinguishable from water itself, and this is enough to say that both are wet.

      But you see, if I ask you for a wet towel, it will sound normal. If I’d ask you for wet water, I’d look mentally questionable

      • If I’d ask you for wet water, I’d look mentally questionable.

        I think this is because water is always wet. It’s a bit redundant.

        That is, unless,

        We had a lot of ice. And, “wet water” was a very silly way of asking for the melted kind. I might think you bumped your head, but I would know what you meant.

        “Is water wet” is not a complete question. I don’t know what the asker’s expectations are, so a satisfying answer is not really possible.

        This is not too different from the ship of theseus being a difficult, brainteasing paradox until you clarify what exactly is meant by “is the ship of theseus.” “Which of these two boats is registered to me by the boat authority” is a much simpler question to answer.

        • @YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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          09 hours ago

          Sorry I checked out the argument I started, but I like both your points, just yours a bit more. I think I’m common nomenclature damp is a level of wetness. Something may be “dry” to the senses but still contain a water content of double digits percentages, considering if our skin is less moist. That being said, I’m sorry I caused anyone any heartache. But I do love a semantics argument.

          • I’m sure it was bound to start whether it was you or not, haha. This is just one of those questions.

            I’m not even really participating as much as I am just trying to spread a bit of philosophy. I think I said this elsewhere, but people often reach for science and facts to sort questions like these long before philosophy, which I find a bit sad because it’s really powerful.