• @wahming
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    7510 months ago

    You’re not helping the stigma against mental illness here

    • Alien Nathan Edward
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      2510 months ago

      People who are awful and know it should kill themselves

      they said while being awful intentionally

      • @mctit@lemmy.world
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        810 months ago

        Leaving an internet comment and murdering double digit newborns is an interesting equivalence

    • @lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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      10 months ago

      Most mental illness doesn’t involve murdering anyone. I’d say Ms Murder Nurse is the one really not helping the stigma against mental illness.

    • @fabulousflamingos@lemmy.world
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      210 months ago

      You’re not helping the stigma against mental illness by automatically assuming she committed the murders as a result of it. You are not a psychologist, more importantly not her psychologist, so you do not have the authority to make that kind of a determination.

      Claiming she committed the murders because she is mentally ill is an ableist act.

      Being mentally ill doesn’t mean you’re going to murder anyone, certainly not babies.

      You’re ableist, and unempathetic.

          • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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            -110 months ago

            It’s not fucking ableism. You’re jumping through hopps to invent shit the OP didn’t say just to have an argument. Get a grip.

            • @fabulousflamingos@lemmy.world
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              010 months ago

              It absolutely is and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for defending it. The mentally ill are hurt deeply when you use stereotypes that they are violent, dangerous and lack agency to absolve evil monsters of their actions. What you’re doing is wrong and you need to stop.

              • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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                010 months ago

                Bitch, I am the mentally ill, that’s not what he’s saying, I’m not offended by his comment because he’s not perpetuating the stereotype. It’s not offensesibe to say that some displaying clesr symptoms of mental illness is mentally ill.

      • @wahming
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        1810 months ago

        That’s a false dichotomy. We can make things better for both.

          • @Glowstick@lemmy.world
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            1510 months ago

            The point is that if you destigmatize mental illness then she could’ve gotten help for herself AND as a result no babies would’ve been killed. Saying “she should’ve killed herself” at best will do nothing, and at worst will prevent other mentally ill people from getting help for themselves, AND thus will lead to more innocent people becoming their victims.

            • @fabulousflamingos@lemmy.world
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              310 months ago

              That’s assuming she committed the murders out of mental illness, which is entirely baseless and an ableist claim to make.

              You are here with a clear agenda and what you’re doing – undermining the seriousness and reprehensibility of her actions by labeling it as mental illness – is morally repugnant.

            • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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              -810 months ago

              After she killed the first one there’s no helping her. Offing herself and saving everyone the time and money of running her through the justice system and locking her up for the rest of her life IS the best thing she can do. The time to ask for help is BEFORE you murder someone’s child. If she’d done that I’d commend here.

              • @Glowstick@lemmy.world
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                At a bare minimum you’re missing the point. The point is that what you’re saying is counterproductive to what you claim to want. Do you want to prevent similar incidents of mentally ill people hurting innocent people in the future? Then saying “she should’ve killed herself” has the opposite effect.

                • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                  -510 months ago

                  First of all, how would them just killing themselves instead of hurting innocent people not prevent them from hurting innocent people?

                  Second. How does saying someone who has already killed an innocent baby (or 7) should have killed herself prevent other people who have not done wrong from seeking help?

                  • @Maalus@lemmy.world
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                    010 months ago

                    You are an unempathetic person. You don’t know them and react with a kneejerk reaction. You are saying awful things. Worse yet, people who have done far less will now read your post that basically says “your mental illness made you do stuff, you should kill yourself” and they will believe you. Imagine someone thinking they are the worst person in the world because of a mistake they made. Be it lack of impulse control that lead to their marriage falling apart, or hurting people close to them due to some other illness. It’s not helping anyone.

                    It’s one thing to want to seperate her from society on account of her actions. It’s an entirely different one to wish death by suicide to someone. It’s not as black and white as you paint it out to be. Mental illness is a huge problem that isn’t just “someone feeling sad”.