• @vga@sopuli.xyz
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    782 months ago

    I realize that I’m an asshole for telling them what to do but here’s what they need to do: They should drop all development of their own Android and put significant resources to making their next phone work with GrapheneOS.

    • @sanpo@sopuli.xyz
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      362 months ago

      That’d make them even more of a niche option than right now, since some apps (most notably banking) will just refuse to work.

      • drkt
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        132 months ago

        On the contrary; many people want GrapheneOS but don’t want a Google phone.

        • Possibly linux
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          212 months ago

          Define most people

          Lemmy isn’t exactly a great representation of the general populous

        • @sol@lemm.ee
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          122 months ago

          Many do, and many want something else. Personally the uncertainty around banking apps working is what keeps me away from GrapheneOS.

          • drkt
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            62 months ago

            Well, mine work. I haven’t found a single app that doesn’t.

        • @sanpo@sopuli.xyz
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          62 months ago

          And, like I said, that’s a niche.

          I’d love to use GrapheneOS myself, but unfortunately too many apps I need won’t work on it.

          • Ulrich
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            42 months ago

            I haven’t found any apps that don’t work with the proper permissions enabled.

              • Ulrich
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                2 months ago

                Yes I do but no, that’s not correct, most apps in Play Store work fine without Play Services.

          • @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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            22 months ago

            they could probably just extend it with the bits that google requires for corporate approval, and release that as a fork, while still contributing to the development of base graphene os.

            I mean they don’t need to use plain graphene, a partnership could make things easier for both parties by avoiding needless duplication of efforts.

        • @vga@sopuli.xyz
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          52 months ago

          What most people don’t seem to understand is that every Android phone is a Google phone unless you go through the degooglification.

          I would (and did) just use Apple phones if it weren’t for GrapheneOS.

      • Ulrich
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        102 months ago

        Most of them work fine. Typically don’t have to even enable compatibility mode.

        Although Google’s new Play Integrity API is breaking more apps every day.

      • @vga@sopuli.xyz
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        72 months ago

        Banking apps generally speaking work, it’s the NFC payments via google pay that don’t and probably never will.

      • @deafboy@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        By working with the real hardware vendor, they could apply for the certification, thus making the apps requiring the useless stamp from google work again.

        Well, except for those apps that specifically tries to blacklist graphene. Looking at you, Revolut!

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      2 months ago

      That problem with that is the Graphene devs

      Probably better to make something for the general population. If nothing else maybe work with Calyx OS or /e/os

      • Lka1988
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        122 months ago

        Agreed. Graphene is a fantastic product, but the devs are absolutely insufferable.

        • @ADTJ@feddit.uk
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          62 months ago

          I’d heard about it as a secure, pro privacy ROM but never used it since it’s not available on my current device. But after seeing their attitude on some forums, it honestly put me right off ever wanting to try Graphene OS.

          I’m glad it’s not just me

        • @timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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          52 months ago

          Even ignoring that I tried graphene but even as a tech person it was off putting. Calyx in contrast has a nice blend of usability and security imo.

          I wanted to like graphene and it’s far superior in security but just so much less usable IMO. I’d rather move to a Linux phone at that point.

          • @deafboy@lemmy.world
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            22 months ago

            What do you mean by “much less usable”? It’s pretty much AOSP in terms of the UX, for better or worse.

            • @timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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              22 months ago

              Well apparently their “approach” is to run sandboxed Google play. Now whether that is better than microg with its more anonymous nature but higher permission level, idk.

              But that locks you into Google play and using an account of some sort rather than just using Aurora. From what I remember anyhow, especially when trying to use seedvault since graphene has no backup solution of its own even years after saying seedvault isn’t great.

    • Ulrich
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      92 months ago

      That would make their already very expensive phone even more expensive, if it were even possible at all.

    • BentiGorlich
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      82 months ago

      they are already actively working with e/OS and iodéOS. Don’t know if e/OS already supports Android 15 like iodé does, but they could just focus on that next release…