I didn’t read it yet is it good lol punished-bernie punished-bernie punished-bernie

  • @dukeGR4
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    131 year ago

    Chinese are obsessed with big cars just like the US. Many German marques have China exclusive models like “L” version for more popular models which not just longer but also heavier

    • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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      1 in 4 cars sold in China in 2022 were EVs, and China has more than 50% of global share of EVs. Anecdotally, even with Chinese cars that aren’t EVs, it’s pretty rare to see the massive trucks or SUVs that are more common in the US, though they do exist. Also if you look at total car ownership per capita, China (226 vehicles per 1000 people) is well below the US (908 vehicles per 1000 people).

        • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
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          181 year ago

          most without a scratch in their bed

          I’m not sure I’ve ever actually seen a truly big truck that gets used for anything productive. The trucks that are actually used for real work all seem to be non-fancy mid or small size pickups.

      • @dukeGR4
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        221 year ago

        interesting stats, thanks for the information

    • @zephyreks@programming.dev
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      421 year ago

      But the government actually cares about stamping down on cars. Congestion policy in big cities is actively hostile to cars.

      • @dukeGR4
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        321 year ago

        their railway is arguably their government’s best modern project, will literally pay dividends for decades to come. uplifted so many people from poverty and improving social mobility. say what you want about the lack of freedom there, gotta hand it to their government for getting shit done sometimes.

        • buckykat [none/use name]
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          521 year ago

          It’s so pleasant to ride too. So smooth you can’t even feel it accelerate, plenty of legroom even for tall foreigners, lots of outlets and the cell service is rock solid the whole way

          Gotta say, The Governance of China hits different on a Fuxing Hao at 350km/h

    • eatmyass [he/him]
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      341 year ago

      Bruh are you arguing Chinese car culture is on any way comparable to us car culture?

      • @dukeGR4
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        81 year ago

        “Bruh” When did i say that? merely drawing parallels that Chinese people love big cars just like people in US.

        tho they don’t have huge pick up trucks and what not last time i was there. And what’s so good about US car culture anyway, most people are driving around in Altimas and Camrys.

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          Nothing is good about US car culture. And yeah of course the Chinese have cars, but there’s much less car dependent infrastructure. In the US you pretty much are forced to have a car if you live outside of like 3 cities

            • Egon [they/them]
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              You’re right, I was unnecessarily hostile. I’ve been antagonistic all day, and it’s not right

          • @dukeGR4
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            71 year ago

            you: puts a photo of your mum as response

            also you: WheN You EngAge in Bad-FaiTh diScuSsiOn

            • Egon [they/them]
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              111 year ago

              You’re really lacking for reading comprehension.
              You were already here -> When you engage in bad-faith discussion
              Respond to pooh stats if you have anything to say.

              • @dukeGR4
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                i already have ya creep

                you’re resorting to ad-hominem but you’re accusing me of engaging in “bad-faith” discussion WHEN you are the relentless one hounding me non-stop. I’m fucking eating my guy, you expect me to engage you like a keyboard warrior at a moments notice? i don’t ahve to work or eat or do other adult stuff?

                  • @dukeGR4
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                    41 year ago

                    CAUSE IM MAKING FOOD AND EATING. WTH.

    • Pastaguini [he/him]
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      261 year ago

      I never knew that, so thanks for letting me know, but be that as it may, there exists far less car dependent infrastructure in China. In America, that giant car is your only option. In China, you usually have way more sustainable options, which we see reflected in their lower carbon emissions per capita.

      • @dukeGR4
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        171 year ago

        In China, you usually have way more sustainable options, which we see reflected in their lower carbon emissions per capita.

        True that, they are leading the EV game. Even Audi is forming a JV with state-owned SAIC. I believe Volkswagen is doing the same thing with another Chinese EV company.

        • buckykat [none/use name]
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          321 year ago

          EVs still cars, still bad.

          But China is also leading the micromobility game, with fast, cheap, and powerful escooters, EUCs, eskate, and so on.

          • @dukeGR4
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            81 year ago

            cars are not inherently bad, it’s only bad when you have a government that entirely expect people to rely on cars as a transport. I would argue for big countries like US and China, car is still the way to go. But public infrastructure ie. public transport has to keep up as well to give people an option. A

            lso micromobility only works in urban centres. I live in suburbs myself, i can kinda use my e-scooter as a last mile transport solution but anything more than 5km i would say it’s a bit of a stretch.

            • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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              341 year ago

              The vast majority of people in China don’t own cars and don’t live in suburbs, most people live in apartment complexes where everyday services are within 20 minutes walk from their building.

              Like American car culture is completely unsustainable in China. China right now has a 1/4 of the per capita car ownership of the US and they have some of the worst congestion in the world. Beijing and many other large cities only allow people to drive their cars two or three days out of the week. They base it off the last number on your license plate, and the cops will stop and potentially impound your car if you are driving on the wrong day. And this policy has like 90% support becuase of how bad traffic is otherwise.

            • Egon [they/them]
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              Cars fucking suck, and the only reason they don’t is that we’ve designed a world where they’re necesay.

              Edit: “Big countries” like us and china are exactly the places that could most benefit from non-car infrastructure. Having high-speed-rail connect the country instead of highways is in all ways a better solution.
              It is a more efficient way of transporting both goods and people, with less maintenance required, and expansion being less costly, and space being less of a demand.
              The only thing cars are optimal for is “last mile delivery” and even then there is often a better solution - micromobility like bikes, escooters and the like for people.
              The only reason we think cars are “good” is because they solve issues that come as a result of making a csr-centric society.

              • @dukeGR4
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                11 year ago

                ok, don’t drive or ride in a car then

                • Egon [they/them]
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                  261 year ago

                  we designed a world where they’re necessary.

                  What part of this is it that you dont understand?

                  • @dukeGR4
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                    but you are contributing to the problem? don’t be a hypocrite.

                    every single time you use the car, think of the animals etc that you are harming. the greenhouse gases especially

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      71% of Chinese people own a car, 92% of American people own a car. The US is the highest car ownership rate on Earth outside of tiny little rich countries like Liechtenstein and San Marino. China is number 94 beneath the Dominican Republic, Syria, Malaysia, Bulgaria, Uruguay, etc.