Yeah, honestly, as much as I want there to be some drama here, he probably did this to himself by accident. The kid punching him story is stupid, fake, gay, dumb, etc. Nobody really believes that shit.
If someone did actually punch him, he would have lost his shit, there would be a much larger fallout.
He’s just a drug addict (not a bad thing, lots of beautiful people are, let’s not shame), who is abusing others around him as a result of his drug abuse. He probably just hit his head on something while fucked on Special K/E/Adderall/etc.
Hating addicts for being addicts, is a bad thing. They’re still people, with full lives, and can be wonderful humans. They may also need help, or they may choose not to get help. The point being, we shouldn’t judge people based on whether or not they’re an addict.
Noone said they were hating him for his drug use. Being a drug addict is a bad thing by definition. If it wasnt a negative for the person we wouldnt call it addiction.
Unfortunately drug addicts are “judged” because they are simply riskier to associate with than a sober person. I’m not sure how many sober people are actually left though, and most people won’t disclose their drug addictions.
Where did you get the idea I hate/judge addicts? You made it up. You’re willing to wash away the ugliness that the disease of addiction is, and that’s a pretty bad thing to do.
I think they were ignoring the nuance which is that a good person could be a victim of a bad thing without it being their fault. Otherwise why say “it’s not a bad thing”?
Yes exactly. “It’s not a bad thing” to me sounds like “hey man drugs are cool (which I either believe or am so desperate to sound accepting, I don’t care how it comes across)”
It expanded my understanding of their socioeconomic plight, psychological suffering, and physiological vicious cycle, exacerbated by ineffective draconian punitive measures implemented by government. It’s a truly excellent and compassionate book, I found the discussion on brain chemistry fascinating as well, and should be easy enough to find with Libby or at a local library.
Most people are drug addicts. Almost everyone I know is addicted to caffeine. Addiction sucks, but being an addict isn’t necessarily bad. It’s when it starts causing issues in your life or you can’t handle yourself properly that it’s a problem.
Yeah, I think I’ve read that sugar is more addictive than cocaine. Put simply, we’re all addicted to things. I don’t know if anyone in this world can truly say they aren’t an addict. Some addiction are just more socially acceptable, but that just brings to light that addiction isn’t the issue, it’s the behavior. You should be allowed to be addicted to what you want as long as it doesn’t harm others.
I think context matters. My queer friends and I will call each other the f-slur, but I wouldn’t use it at a family supper, for example. Likewise, I think the tone is different using “gay” in a queer meme community versus in a serious discussion on a news community.
I’m not defending the flippant use of it in day to day conversation. But considering this community (Lemmy) I think it’s fairly safe to say they were not being homophobic.
I shut that shit down quick with some Gen z roommates I had when they said it everyone they died in a video game. For context, I am two standard deviations to the right of the bell curve when it comes to largeness, and I don’t mean I was fat. My mom considered herself bi, but is married to a woman. After relaying that info to said roommate, I didn’t hear it again.
That being said, I don’t think that type is prone to the jumping through technological hoops required to create an account here.
Not trying to give credit to Elonazi. I just remembered that my kid (~19 months) smashed the babyphone onto my head. I would have gotten a black eye for sure if he would have hit it. Still love him. My son, not Elonazi, of course.
Yeah, honestly, as much as I want there to be some drama here, he probably did this to himself by accident. The kid punching him story is stupid, fake, gay, dumb, etc. Nobody really believes that shit.
If someone did actually punch him, he would have lost his shit, there would be a much larger fallout.
He’s just a drug addict (not a bad thing, lots of beautiful people are, let’s not shame), who is abusing others around him as a result of his drug abuse. He probably just hit his head on something while fucked on Special K/E/Adderall/etc.
I think most addicts would disagree with you that being an addict isn’t a bad thing.
Hating addicts for being addicts, is a bad thing. They’re still people, with full lives, and can be wonderful humans. They may also need help, or they may choose not to get help. The point being, we shouldn’t judge people based on whether or not they’re an addict.
Noone said they were hating him for his drug use. Being a drug addict is a bad thing by definition. If it wasnt a negative for the person we wouldnt call it addiction.
Unfortunately drug addicts are “judged” because they are simply riskier to associate with than a sober person. I’m not sure how many sober people are actually left though, and most people won’t disclose their drug addictions.
Where did you get the idea I hate/judge addicts? You made it up. You’re willing to wash away the ugliness that the disease of addiction is, and that’s a pretty bad thing to do.
I don’t believe they were projecting, so much as clarifying their original position.
I think they were ignoring the nuance which is that a good person could be a victim of a bad thing without it being their fault. Otherwise why say “it’s not a bad thing”?
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Addiction is the bad thing. Being an addict (victim) is not.
Yes exactly. “It’s not a bad thing” to me sounds like “hey man drugs are cool (which I either believe or am so desperate to sound accepting, I don’t care how it comes across)”
Correct
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate was pivotal in reframing my perspective on addiction and addicts.
Sorry, could you summarize how?
It expanded my understanding of their socioeconomic plight, psychological suffering, and physiological vicious cycle, exacerbated by ineffective draconian punitive measures implemented by government. It’s a truly excellent and compassionate book, I found the discussion on brain chemistry fascinating as well, and should be easy enough to find with Libby or at a local library.
Most people are drug addicts. Almost everyone I know is addicted to caffeine. Addiction sucks, but being an addict isn’t necessarily bad. It’s when it starts causing issues in your life or you can’t handle yourself properly that it’s a problem.
Also sugar
Carbohydrates are needed for our bodies to function, so sugar is a bit different.
Yeah, I think I’ve read that sugar is more addictive than cocaine. Put simply, we’re all addicted to things. I don’t know if anyone in this world can truly say they aren’t an addict. Some addiction are just more socially acceptable, but that just brings to light that addiction isn’t the issue, it’s the behavior. You should be allowed to be addicted to what you want as long as it doesn’t harm others.
Virtually everyone is addicted to sugar, to the point that most people can’t imagine that it’s an addiction… until they try to stop.
…stupid, fake, gay, dumb… --> 75 upvotes on lemmy
It’s a greentext meme. Everything on 4chan is “fake/gay”.
It’s not being used in a serious context here.
“That’s how they do it on 4chan” is probably one of the worst possible justifications for one’s behaviour.
I mean, even the various LGBT sub reddits commonly use that Chang in community saying “HA, GAAAY!” gif to various number of up votes.
Edit: good job hive mind. Very proud of you! 🖖
I think context matters. My queer friends and I will call each other the f-slur, but I wouldn’t use it at a family supper, for example. Likewise, I think the tone is different using “gay” in a queer meme community versus in a serious discussion on a news community.
I’m not defending the flippant use of it in day to day conversation. But considering this community (Lemmy) I think it’s fairly safe to say they were not being homophobic.
I shut that shit down quick with some Gen z roommates I had when they said it everyone they died in a video game. For context, I am two standard deviations to the right of the bell curve when it comes to largeness, and I don’t mean I was fat. My mom considered herself bi, but is married to a woman. After relaying that info to said roommate, I didn’t hear it again.
That being said, I don’t think that type is prone to the jumping through technological hoops required to create an account here.
Not trying to give credit to Elonazi. I just remembered that my kid (~19 months) smashed the babyphone onto my head. I would have gotten a black eye for sure if he would have hit it. Still love him. My son, not Elonazi, of course.