• @REDACTED@infosec.pub
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    UN is the government currently ruling over said region? It really does not matter what UN says, they have no power, just like they have been screaming at Russia and making a list of war crimes with nothing to do with said list.

    They could be seen as guidance, but governments around the world don’t care about external guidance.

    EDIT: People, stop being stupid again and misinterpreting things as soon as you see a comment that does not shine in positive colors. I was just being honest here that UN is wasting time. Israel does not give a shit. We need a real action, not a fucking blog post.

    If you genuinely think UN is the answer here, you’re delusional and coping too hard. They have pretty much always failed to be the solution and we should stop hoping for 47352th time that it will be different this time. My bitterness comes from their lack of results towards other wars and as an icing on the cake Russia leading UN human rights council. The same council that posted this

    • @mad_lentil@lemmy.ca
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      What is this, the card says moops?? Oh pardon me, by all means, carry on with the unprecedented genocide!

      The UN is often on the right side of these things, so anyone who cares about human life, human rights, states rights, or international fraternity, would naturally align themselves to that consensus.

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        11 days ago

        …exactly my comment. Exactly which is why I said that governments rarely align with UN (aka. guidance)

        Lemmy misinterpreting things as usual.

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          So you’re just… pointing out facts about international law in the thread about protesters trying to break a siege–what, for fun? I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish.

          Obviously various authorities and people are in disagreement over what is right/legal for the people of Gaza. That’s not something we’re confused about. We just by and large side with the people of Gaza.


          Anyway, we all process differently, so I’m not trying to imply that you have ill intent. But that’s why people are reacting negatively to your comment. Obviously ANY authority that sides with the people of Gaza is going to be one we side with, even if US/Canada/Israel/etc does not recognise them.

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            So you’re just… pointing out facts about international law in the thread about protesters trying to break a siege–what, for fun? I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish.

            I was triggered at “See what UN said, we’re winning” mentality. It’s coping mechanism at best. People need to stop hoping for the UN to change things. See how European governments are slowly changing attitude after protests, not tweeting UN.

            In any case, this is hopeless, I’m deleting my original comment and again regretting trying to talk some sense into people

            • @mad_lentil@lemmy.ca
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              110 days ago

              I see. I apologize. I guess I lost that context while scrolling. I agree people shouldn’t get complacent by just pointing to some authority that on their own won’t change things.

    • @rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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      This is like saying a judge is useless when law enforcers doesn’t apply thr ruling. UN is not useless, the country members are

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        011 days ago

        It’s more like almost everyone agrees to something and then an authoritarian with veto power says no, which is a deep rooted problem with the UN itself

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            There is only one country that has threatened to arrest ICC/ICJ judges and threatened UN if they don’t do what they want.

            EDIT: Actually, Israel might be the second one, but I can’t remember it from top of my head, bit I fully expect them to

      • @REDACTED@infosec.pub
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        110 days ago

        ?? What? No. You completely missed my point. How is my being angry about lack of real action in any way equals to me supporting what is happening there? Are you illiterate?

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            I just tried to, again, by changing people’s mentality and how you approach this problem, but, again, it’s backfiring because people don’t want to go out in the streets, but tweet at UN

            Instead of being open about this, why are you seemingly coming at people who want things to finally change, instead of continuing this genocide? What have you done and what are you doing right now?

            • @rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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              I reply to israeli propaganda, share videos of israeli terrorist crimes and do my part in the bds mouvement.

              I also think about the after of the genocide if it ever stop which is to stop voting the parties who still support occupation

              • @REDACTED@infosec.pub
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                110 days ago

                Well then, that’s definitely way more effective than re-posting what UN says. No sarcasm in case it sounded like it.