• @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    -21 year ago

    Well by the conditions the russian federation placed 18 months ago would mean that yes Ukraine is winning. The fact the front lines are static does not mean what you think it does.

            • @ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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              161 year ago

              why should I give one shit about what russians goals where at the start of the war, the reality is its a meat grinder and the location of said meat grinder requires ukraine to move through it to advance, russia are setting the terms of this conflict and are in control.

              • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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                -11 year ago

                Why have you gave one shit indeed, its not like that was the whole reason to invade or anything.

                According to the stated russian objectives they have already lost this conflict, time will tell if Ukraine also looses.

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                  I dont care about either sides goals because im not naive enough to buy into military propoganda, which the goals are.

                  During a war nothing either side says matters, you fatally misunderstand what happens to the media when a war breaks out, it just becomes another instrument of war, and as such nothing can be trusted but the satalite footage of where the war is and boots on the ground reports of people there, everything else is bullshit.

                  • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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                    -11 year ago

                    Ok please enlighten me on the winning condition for russia to end this conflict in their favour. No need for “military propoganda” just how does this end in your mind?