For all you Americans who like to complain about the democrats candidates, maybe join the party and vote on primaries. Maybe do something other than just wait around until they feed you the candidate they picked without your input. Maybe start changing up the party from within and at the entry level, by voting on primaries and volunteering for the progressive candidates that want to overthrow the party career politicians. Look at what New York did! If they had waited around and not cared about primaries, they would have gotten Cumo and complained.
I hear a lot of complaining about the democrats on Lemmy, sometimes you guys blame them more than Republican. But if you don’t vote or register as a democrat then you don’t matter to them. Make yourselves heard before the actual elections
You don’t even have to join the Democratic Party to vote in their primaries.
That being said, they will absolutely move mountains to block anyone remotely socialist from gaining power. The only reason Mamdani won the primary is because NYC has ranked choice voting.
The Dems are not going to save us because their leadership is profiting from this too much. Organized resistance is the only hope we have.
Actually, Mamdani would’ve won on first past the post as well (he has 43.5% of voters choosing him as first choice). He needs a 50% threshold to advance, which is where ranked choice will come in, but he would’ve won a first past the post anyways.
So even in a first past the post scheme, people should vote in dem primaries. I think we’re all on board with changing the dem party, and it starts in the primaries.
Go vote, or get oppressed. That’s basically the options and people need to understand that. Voting doesn’t guarantee you won’t be oppressed, but not voting guarantees you will.
Would those people have voted for him in a first past the post race? Or would they have been too afraid that someone worse than Cuomo would win, so they stick with him?
Well since he was selected as their first choice, presumably they would still choose their first choice when only given one choice. Ranked choice plays a role for everyone else down ballot and for automatic runoffs. People don’t put someone as their first choice that they don’t actually want as their first choice. So yes, they would have.
Yes they do, all the time. I wanted to vote for Bernie in the 2016 election, but I actually voted for Hillary because I thought that splitting the vote would let Trump win. If we had ranked choice, I could have put Bernie on top while knowing that I wasn’t opening the door tor Trump.
The democratic party is literally designed to squelch any kind of true progressivism. They are funnel any movements into “voting blue no matter who” and make people like AOC say bullshit things like “Biden is working tirelessly for a ceasefire” which we know if bullshit after Biden aides admitted they did not.
We need to make ourselves heard, aboslutley. And waiting for the elections is a recipie for failure indeed. But you say all these things about registering for democratic primaries or canvasing or “changing the party” without realizing people who have been paying attention have been trying that for decades. The democratic party is designed to maintain the status quo, and be as big of a roadbump as possible to actual workers demands so that they can keep campaigning on being better than the GOP. We are not reforming the democratic party when its whole goal for decades is to trap people trying to demand actual reform.
We need to make demands, absolutely. But we need to throw off the shackles of thinking the prison guards are going to help us escape. We need a new party, not a new Democrat.
As our nation descends into authoritarianism/fascism you absolutely do not have the luxury of time necessary to wait for a 3rd party to actually start doing something so they can start winning local/state elections so they can start having ANY presence AT ALL in Congress, so they can one day potentially run a presidential candidate that stands a chance.
Like, are you aware that no 3rd party has done really anything at all? NONE in Congress. NONE. They have no presence and it takes DECADES to build up a nation-wide coalition and win a presidency. Even if somehow, in a fantasy scenario, a 3rd party candidate won the presidency, they’d have ZERO support in Congress to accomplish anything.
The answer is 100% putting massive pressure on the Democrat party to change to what we want it to be. We literally witnessed the insane Republican base do exactly that to the Republican party over the last 10-20 years.
For all you Americans who like to complain about the democrats candidates, maybe join the party and vote on primaries. Maybe do something other than just wait around until they feed you the candidate they picked without your input. Maybe start changing up the party from within and at the entry level, by voting on primaries and volunteering for the progressive candidates that want to overthrow the party career politicians. Look at what New York did! If they had waited around and not cared about primaries, they would have gotten Cumo and complained. I hear a lot of complaining about the democrats on Lemmy, sometimes you guys blame them more than Republican. But if you don’t vote or register as a democrat then you don’t matter to them. Make yourselves heard before the actual elections
You don’t even have to join the Democratic Party to vote in their primaries.
That being said, they will absolutely move mountains to block anyone remotely socialist from gaining power. The only reason Mamdani won the primary is because NYC has ranked choice voting.
The Dems are not going to save us because their leadership is profiting from this too much. Organized resistance is the only hope we have.
Actually, Mamdani would’ve won on first past the post as well (he has 43.5% of voters choosing him as first choice). He needs a 50% threshold to advance, which is where ranked choice will come in, but he would’ve won a first past the post anyways.
So even in a first past the post scheme, people should vote in dem primaries. I think we’re all on board with changing the dem party, and it starts in the primaries.
Go vote, or get oppressed. That’s basically the options and people need to understand that. Voting doesn’t guarantee you won’t be oppressed, but not voting guarantees you will.
Would those people have voted for him in a first past the post race? Or would they have been too afraid that someone worse than Cuomo would win, so they stick with him?
Well since he was selected as their first choice, presumably they would still choose their first choice when only given one choice. Ranked choice plays a role for everyone else down ballot and for automatic runoffs. People don’t put someone as their first choice that they don’t actually want as their first choice. So yes, they would have.
Yes they do, all the time. I wanted to vote for Bernie in the 2016 election, but I actually voted for Hillary because I thought that splitting the vote would let Trump win. If we had ranked choice, I could have put Bernie on top while knowing that I wasn’t opening the door tor Trump.
Progressive Democrats are the 3rd party. That’s why establishment Dems are trying to suppress them.
The democratic party is literally designed to squelch any kind of true progressivism. They are funnel any movements into “voting blue no matter who” and make people like AOC say bullshit things like “Biden is working tirelessly for a ceasefire” which we know if bullshit after Biden aides admitted they did not.
We need to make ourselves heard, aboslutley. And waiting for the elections is a recipie for failure indeed. But you say all these things about registering for democratic primaries or canvasing or “changing the party” without realizing people who have been paying attention have been trying that for decades. The democratic party is designed to maintain the status quo, and be as big of a roadbump as possible to actual workers demands so that they can keep campaigning on being better than the GOP. We are not reforming the democratic party when its whole goal for decades is to trap people trying to demand actual reform.
We need to make demands, absolutely. But we need to throw off the shackles of thinking the prison guards are going to help us escape. We need a new party, not a new Democrat.
Not happening.
As our nation descends into authoritarianism/fascism you absolutely do not have the luxury of time necessary to wait for a 3rd party to actually start doing something so they can start winning local/state elections so they can start having ANY presence AT ALL in Congress, so they can one day potentially run a presidential candidate that stands a chance.
Like, are you aware that no 3rd party has done really anything at all? NONE in Congress. NONE. They have no presence and it takes DECADES to build up a nation-wide coalition and win a presidency. Even if somehow, in a fantasy scenario, a 3rd party candidate won the presidency, they’d have ZERO support in Congress to accomplish anything.
The answer is 100% putting massive pressure on the Democrat party to change to what we want it to be. We literally witnessed the insane Republican base do exactly that to the Republican party over the last 10-20 years.