• @towerful@programming.dev
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      2220 days ago

      This… Except for contactless payment.
      I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
      I don’t care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.

      I had only 1 issue.
      Contactless payment.
      It’s extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.

      The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I’m sure they wave away the laws because of “financial security” or some other bullshit.
      As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn’t suffer exactly the same issues.
      I looked into some “graphene contactless payment” type systems or workarounds, and I couldn’t find anything that would fill the gap.

      • @Jonas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1220 days ago

        Try Curve Pay. Just learned about it yesterday. I added my credit card and it just works. Couldn’t be happier.

        • @orclev@lemmy.world
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          319 days ago

          Looks awesome, but unfortunately seems to only be for the UK and EU. I wish the US market would get something similar.

        • Cyberwolf
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          118 days ago

          Do you trust them? The Curve sub is full of people complaining about fraudulent transactions. Kinda makes me afraid of unlocking my card lol.

        • @towerful@programming.dev
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          119 days ago

          I’m always nervous about fintech companies. Maybe it’s time to get over that and give curve pay a spin.
          The cashback seems nice, considering a lot of shops I use are on there.

      • @khannie@lemmy.world
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        619 days ago

        This may seem like a silly solution but maybe pop your debit card inside your phone case. It should bop through it.

        • @towerful@programming.dev
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          319 days ago

          Yup, true.

          But contactless via a phone can have no limit.
          Adding a debit card to phone case means the upper limit is £100. Which is actually fine, and is the limit I have normally set for phone contactless. But I can instantly remove that limit via my banking app.

          And the phone needs to be unlocked to make a payment.
          Do if I lose my phone anyone can charge £100 to the debit card.

      • @bent@feddit.dk
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        419 days ago

        I hear so many people praise paying with their phones, and there I am, so happy that I can leave my phone at home when shopping. Each to their own I guess.

      • @AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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        319 days ago

        "The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I’m sure they wave away the laws because of “financial security” or some other bullshit. "

        I don’t know as much as I’d like to about the regulatory side of this, but I know that Google and other big tech have done a masterful job of proactively building themselves into systems such that taking action against them is difficult.

        I think that’s part of why the US antitrust case against Microsoft a few decades ago fizzled out into nothing — even though Microsoft was deemed to have been a monopolist, the big question was how do we remedy that in a way that isn’t going to be harmful? The consensus on this amongst people who I respect is that the results of the Microsoft case was woefully insufficient and something that helped to lay the foundations of the big tech dominance that we see today.

      • @DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
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        19 days ago

        I was hesitating due to this as well, until I realized that my payments are something I want google to have data on least of all. So I got a debit card and turns out it is no inconvenience at all.

      • @njordomir@lemmy.world
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        019 days ago

        It’s not necessarily a solution, but my Garmin watch can still hold some of my cards, so I don’t need the NFC payment on my phone to duplicate that functionality. Do you wear or carry any other devices that can stand-in?

    • @6nk06@sh.itjust.works
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      320 days ago

      I installed GrapheneOS for the security and lack of Google. I didn’t know it was a very nice stock Android without any crap. I love it.

        • @6nk06@sh.itjust.works
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          720 days ago

          Tap to pay is not there. But you can install the Play Store and install all your paid applications, that’s what I did.

            • @6nk06@sh.itjust.works
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              119 days ago

              Everything is sandboxed but I don’t have all the details. You don’t actively turn any sandbox on or off, it’s always there IIRC.

            • @6nk06@sh.itjust.works
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              219 days ago

              I’m not trying to convince you but I was paying for everything with my phone, it was the most important feature. After installing GrapheneOS, i got control back and piece of mind, and I dont miss tap to pay.

      • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        320 days ago

        What I’m curious is what kind of ball are you shaped like?

        A golf ball? With divots all over your skin? A basketball? Just round? A baseball? With stitches all over your skin like later years Chucky? A football? Are you Stewie Griffen? Testicles? Wait, are you saying your whole body is one big testicle? Oh my god, the Iron Shiek wasn’t speaking broken english! He was just talking about you!!! “I hit him right in the ball this big!”

        • @BallShapedMan@lemmy.world
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          620 days ago

          Lol! ❤️ run on rants.

          And I used to be quite overweight with a large gut. My kids used to say I was 19 months pregnant. The weight is gone but I kept the name.