When asked to respond to Falco’s inflammatory remarks, the church said in a statement that the preacher was “only calling for the death penalty and suicide for the actual sodomites (homosexuals). The Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death. They are supposed to be executed by the government. We are not to take the law into our own hands.”
This is the “reserved” and “compromise” position in their eyes.
reminder: these fascists assholes are not human. they give up all humanity when they actively choose to become or remain within this trump nazi cult. so when we say “nazis are not human” we are not dehumanizing them; they did it to themselves.
i mean sure in meatspace terms they are physically human but they have done irreparable harm to their internal humanity by supporting this ideology. It’s not just that I “disagree” with fascism (and capitalism and nazism and zionism, among other things) but it’s that there are provable choices these cohorts have made that have done far more harm, even to themselves, than ever imaginable.
Indeed, they are human, and possibly under the right (wrong) circumstances some of us would exhibit some of the same traits. But we’re at a point that for us to keep being human for a while longer, they have to stop being human forever.
You’re right, it’s inevitable. The fascist US will be looked back on with disdain as fascist Germany is, there will be reforms to be better, then in a few generations someone will do this shit all over again (assuming we don’t kill ourselves off with nuclear war and/or climate change). All you can do is be the best person you can for those around you.
I don’t think these are technically nazis. Nazis have a political purpose for which they do the things they do. These folks don’t have a purpose or an agenda besides murderlust en powerhunger. Nazis are evil as a byproduct, a side hustle. These folks are evil as their core business.
That is being a Nazi. Finding an “other” to blame all your problems on is central to the idea. If they let up on this for a moment, they’d have to solve actual problems, and they don’t know how to do that.
Never mind that the story they are referencing is about the importance of hospitality. It would be more accurate to say that the Bible is saying to kill ICE agents.
It doesn’t matter what it really says. They’ll claim it says whatever they want it to say, and then they’ll use that as an excuse for any atrocity they like.
From the Passion narrative according to John (John 18)
29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”
30 “If he were not a criminal,” they replied, “we would not have handed him over to you.”
31 Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.”
“But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected.
Literally the exact same method that the Jewish religious authorities used to try to convince the Romans to execute Jesus because they weren’t allowed to execute people.
(Note: this is not meant to be antisemitic, just contextual, though the Jews’ role in the execution of Jesus has been and is still used to justify antisemitism)
I mean, what’s the big deal? The church (theirs of course) and the State were never supposed to actually be separate in a secular nation with something as clear as the First Amendment. The Founders with the likes of Jefferson who had a tenuous relationship with xtianity so very obvs meant this place to be JESUSLAND.
Also, it’d be the STATE doing the murdering, you guys! It’d be a righteous and lawful murdering, because Jebus.
This is the “reserved” and “compromise” position in their eyes.
reminder: these fascists assholes are not human. they give up all humanity when they actively choose to become or remain within this trump nazi cult. so when we say “nazis are not human” we are not dehumanizing them; they did it to themselves.
these fuckwits need prison. all of them.
They are human. Hatred and cruelty is part of who we as humans are. The better among us are supposed to keep the monsters in check. We failed.
i mean sure in meatspace terms they are physically human but they have done irreparable harm to their internal humanity by supporting this ideology. It’s not just that I “disagree” with fascism (and capitalism and nazism and zionism, among other things) but it’s that there are provable choices these cohorts have made that have done far more harm, even to themselves, than ever imaginable.
Indeed, they are human, and possibly under the right (wrong) circumstances some of us would exhibit some of the same traits. But we’re at a point that for us to keep being human for a while longer, they have to stop being human forever.
History is a constant and never ending litany of such “failure”, and we NEVER learn. What’s your backup plan?
You’re right, it’s inevitable. The fascist US will be looked back on with disdain as fascist Germany is, there will be reforms to be better, then in a few generations someone will do this shit all over again (assuming we don’t kill ourselves off with nuclear war and/or climate change). All you can do is be the best person you can for those around you.
Nah, they need to be executed. If it’s legal for them to say gay people should be executed, it’s legal for me to say they should be executed.
I don’t think these are technically nazis. Nazis have a political purpose for which they do the things they do. These folks don’t have a purpose or an agenda besides murderlust en powerhunger. Nazis are evil as a byproduct, a side hustle. These folks are evil as their core business.
That is being a Nazi. Finding an “other” to blame all your problems on is central to the idea. If they let up on this for a moment, they’d have to solve actual problems, and they don’t know how to do that.
true, they’re worse. they’re capitalists.
Same/same
Never mind that the story they are referencing is about the importance of hospitality. It would be more accurate to say that the Bible is saying to kill ICE agents.
It doesn’t matter what it really says. They’ll claim it says whatever they want it to say, and then they’ll use that as an excuse for any atrocity they like.
They haven’t actually read the story if Sodom and Gomorrah, they’ve only had it explained to them by people they outsource critical thought to.
From the Passion narrative according to John (John 18)
Literally the exact same method that the Jewish religious authorities used to try to convince the Romans to execute Jesus because they weren’t allowed to execute people.
(Note: this is not meant to be antisemitic, just contextual, though the Jews’ role in the execution of Jesus has been and is still used to justify antisemitism)
The shit that modern day religious people do might actually scare me into belief that there’s a Satan somewhere giggling his horns off.
Twist: Satan may just be the “good” guy…
I mean, what’s the big deal? The church (theirs of course) and the State were never supposed to actually be separate in a secular nation with something as clear as the First Amendment. The Founders with the likes of Jefferson who had a tenuous relationship with xtianity so very obvs meant this place to be JESUSLAND.
Also, it’d be the STATE doing the murdering, you guys! It’d be a righteous and lawful murdering, because Jebus.