• MizuTama [he/him, any]
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    27 days ago

    I think there should be gentle pushback for the language learning aspect as I’ve definitely had it mangle intent when seeing how it translates and interprets things in my second language, as well as grammar and it’s somewhat rigid approach for grammatical rules but both of those are somewhat contextual and are mostly because from my experience LLM is best in contexts where you know enough to correct it and if you’re using it for those two, you won’t notice any particular peculiarities. If you mean the narrow context of you needing a reminder for rules that you mostly know already, then I agree it can be useful.

    For context regular translations by humans and old-school ML translation have the same intent and meaning issues, ML to a much worse degree than both LLM and humans in my experience, so I frankly don’t find an issue with it in a translation context.

    I like to call LLMs the whatchamacallit machines, as the handful of times I’ve interacted with it, it worked best in contexts where I needed something I would know when I saw it but couldn’t generate.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      27 days ago

      I’ve been using this app to learn Mandarin, and the AI chat bot in it seems to work really well https://www.superchinese.com/

      I can imagine that it might fail at something very nuanced, but at my level it’s really useful because I just need basic practice and being able to have it do casual conversation and check my pronunciation is incredibly helpful.

      I like to call LLMs the whatchamacallit machines, as the handful of times I’ve interacted with it, it worked best in contexts where I needed something I would know when I saw it but couldn’t generate.

      In general, that’s the rule of thumb I have as well with these things. It’s most useful in a context where you understand the subject matter well, and you can make good independent judgments on correctness of the output.

      • MizuTama [he/him, any]
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        17 days ago

        I can imagine that it might fail at something very nuanced, but at my level it’s really useful because I just need basic practice and being able to have it do casual conversation and check my pronunciation is incredibly helpful.

        Oh in that case yeah, if you just need the basics tends not to be too bad, I feel once you close in on intermediate it starts to fall off but so do a lot of tools at that point.