• Bud
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    1412 days ago

    Looks arouns: families making a living, my doctor visit was for free, and a friend is about to take a huge redundancy package thanks to state laws that mandate his company to compensate.

    We are so fallen.

    • @hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de
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      12 days ago

      I AM PLANNING A VACAY-CAYS. While on a proper mass transit. Vacaycays, I can afford them and I will be paid for days off.

      I also cannot decide to which cultural event to go. There is like some open air cinema, with classics screening. Or go for a niche artsy stuff.

      I think Europe is in a bad shape.

      And nazi russia should rush in and just fucking raze it to the ground.

    • Spaniard
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      12 days ago

      You pay for your doctor visit with taxes. It wasn’t free.

      Europe is a big place, France is in heavy crisis because of their debt. Torre Pacheco in Spain has some immigrant issues (almost 30% of it’s population it’s non-eu immigrants)

      • That Weird Vegan
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        212 days ago

        no fucking shit. Everyone knows it was paid for by taxes, but it’s still significantly cheaper than paying for it up front like you would in america.

        • Spaniard
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          12 days ago

          Just pointing out it’s not free. That’s how you get government official saying public money belongs to no one.

          Edit. I never did the math on which costs me more money but it’s around 2k for public healthcare in Spain per person, but my employer pays for my private healthcare (if I add another person is about 40€, including dental which public healthcare doesn’t cover everything), but also if I have to get surgery they would send me to the public one…

            • @M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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              112 days ago

              Wild thing about this line of argument is that it almost solely comes out of american mouths, you know the place that pays more per capita then anyother nation on health care.

      • Bud
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        212 days ago

        No shit! Happy to pay taxes to keep healthcare public.

      • Echo Dot
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        12 days ago

        You pay for your doctor visit with taxes.

        Oh you’re one of them. Real relation that you’re providing everyone there.

        Except it’s actually not strictly speaking true, yeah everyone pays some taxes and some of those taxes go to healthcare but it’s not a separate tax, it’s just part of the tax everyone pays. Some of it goes to healthcare, but some of it goes to road maintenance, some the police. It’s all just in a big lump of tax.

        It’s not as if your tax rate goes up depending on your health. You pay the same amount of tax regardless of your current medical status so to say you pay for health with tax is a rather disingenuous.