I am asking because I know people from both sides:

  • People who discourage it: usually talk about how the beggars might spend their money on, how they might be lying, How donating to them will encourage them to keep begging and how they should be looking for a job instead (My commentary: finding a job is impossible for them this days, matter of fact there is literally hundreds, if not thousands of articles online talking about how hard and impossible it had become).
  • People who encourage it: to be honest here, they usually talk only about religious reasons.

(Note: I know that the overview about both sides are highly unbalanced, but I preferred to keep it limited to my personal experiences rather than expanding it from myself, as I intentionally not looking for theories and objective logic, rather I am looking at people reasons and opinions as this is highly subjective matter.)

Anyone got any thoughts about this?

  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    012 days ago

    Anyone got any thoughts about this?

    Calling them “beggers” is shitty and outdated…

    And with you saying the people who help others only do it for religious reasons…

    It makes me think you should be saying what geographic area you’re in when asking these questions, because it just doesn’t sound like any western country.

    All this stuff might be normal where you’re from, but not where most Lemmy users are.

    Or maybe there’s another reason you keep using terms that are outdated in Europe/Canada/America?

    • Troy
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      012 days ago

      The pendulum has swung too far. Come back to the centre.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        012 days ago

        We’re fighting fascism buddy…

        If someone saying it’s better to use adjectives than nouns is enough for you to want to meet in the middle with fascists, it sounds to me you were looking for an excuse to tell people to get closer to fascism

        • @CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
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          You’re not fighting fascism you’re fighting a bunch of strangers based on how they refer to individuals in a hypothetical scenario based on your personal, ever changing, in-group language. Identity politics don’t actually help anyone. They just make liberals feel good as they step over people sleeping on the sidewalk.

          • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            -112 days ago

            We’re fighting fascism buddy…

            I meant in general that is what’s happening in 2015…

            based on your personal, ever changing, in-group language.

            Again, this isn’t a personal opinion, there have been multiple academic studies showing the effect language choices like this on thinking since the 1980s at least.

            It’s not “ever changing” but if 40 some years is too fast for you, lots of conservatives feel the same.

            I just don’t spend a lot of time interacting with someone who views a personal inconvenience like this apparently is as such a big deal and worth hurting others.

            But again, lots of conservatives do. MAGA 100% agrees with you, and regretably there’s a lot of them these days.

            So I’ll leave you free to talk with the people you agree with.