Its a shame because they’re prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don’t understand the point of targeting a person you don’t like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don’t like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)

  • Unruffled [they/them]English
    8•3 days ago

    Check out PJs LW modlog, it’s not all rainbows and sunshine. I know you love to do that anyway.

    Nobody accused him of “mass downvoting”, that’s a strawman. What he was accused of was harassing one of our users, looking him up for the specific purpose of downvoting past posts/comments and to leave salty comments and reports on old threads like a goddam stalker, because he’s an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats to defeat Donald Trump. There is plenty of evidence for all of those things.

    At the very least, his behaviour around this has been petty and childish, not great qualities in a mod. And if he was even a slightly reasonable person, he probably wouldn’t have quit our instance in a huff, and started up a personal grudge community to stir up pointless drama all because of a 7 day temp ban. Like just how fragile is his ego, anyway? We’ve all copped short bans without going into a full breakdown about it.

    And it’s pretty well known by now (except for you it seems) PJ has a bad temper, and that he’s been losing his shit more and more lately. He even states as such in his profile. While I do feel empathy for the fact he lives in chronic pain, that’s no excuse for harassing one of our users in this manner.

    I believe that Eugene was sincere in his complaint, and he was very upset by the situation. PJ has all the power in this situation as a “power mod” and very active poster. Eugene is just a random user who was targeted for his political stance. And the fact you are defending PJ here instead of believing the victim is concerning to me. Much like the “believe women” slogan during the #metoo movement, my default position is to believe my upset users, not to side with the person bullying them. That’s just how we roll at dbzer0 and I’m not gonna apologize for it.

    I mean, what’s the difference between your position here and something like, “Harvey Weinstein has made lots of great movies and nobody else has complained about him, so that woman must be lying”? There is no difference. PJ is just busy trying to launder his bruised reputation imo, and you are helping him with that project.

    • Eugene V. Debs' GhostEnglish
      2•2 days ago

      Phillip somehow claims he doesn’t have the time/energy to respond to this, but has been replying to everything else for hours.

      I think he just wants to ignore you and say he wins.

      Edit: a few days now and he still refuses to. Almost like he’s acting in bad faith!

    • @PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      -2•3 days ago

      Nobody accused him of “mass downvoting”, that’s a strawman. What he was accused of was harassing one of our users, looking him up for the specific purpose of downvoting past posts/comments and to leave salty comments and reports on old threads like a goddam stalker, because he’s an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats to defeat Donald Trump. There is plenty of evidence for all of those things.

      Truly bizarre take, especially considering that what was expressly stated was that I didn’t expressly look them up, and that the only ‘salty comment’ I left was when I was literally and explicitly mentioned by name, but thanks for confirming that this is all over you throwing a shitfit over my politics because I feel like getting murdered by Nazis is a bad deal. Sorry that my anger makes you uncomfortable over your bootlicking of Nazis.

      At the very least, his behaviour around this has been petty and childish, not great qualities in a mod. And if he was even a slightly reasonable person, he probably wouldn’t have quit our instance in a huff, and started up a personal grudge community to stir up pointless drama all because of a 7 day temp ban.

      “If you were a truly reasonable person, you would have sat down and meekly taken it from the Authorities like a good anarchist would!”

      Sorry for not agreeing with you playing bizarre asspat games over my apparent biggest fan getting pissed that they get downvoted when I disagree with them?

      And it’s pretty well known by now (except for you it seems) PJ has a bad temper, and that he’s been losing his shit more and more lately. He even states as such in his profile. While I do feel empathy for the fact he lives in chronic pain, that’s no excuse for harassing one of our users in this manner.

      It’s not chronic pain which causes me to dislike people who simp for Nazis and comments which reinforce that.

      PJ has all the power in this situation as a “power mod” and very active poster.

      What.

      How does being an active poster give me power in this situation.

      For that matter, how does being a mod give me power in this situation? So far as I know, my biggest fan doesn’t even post in any of the comms I mod?

      Are you just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks? lmao

      I believe that Eugene was sincere in his complaint, and he was very upset by the situation.

      … they’ve been upset for seven months now, then, considering that they bring me up at every opportunity to bitch about me when we rarely interact.

      Like, Ghost is out here blatantly lying on things that I can (and have) literally quote to disprove, and you’re pretending they’re the victim. Because I’m a ‘turbolib’ for not wanting to get murdered by Nazis.

      But hey, I get it, you need to asspat Nazi enablers like yourself, while people who are going to die because of the Nazis you ushered into office can fuck off. That’s what true solidarity means over at dbzer0, it’s quite apparent. :)

      And the fact you are defending PJ here instead of believing the victim is concerning to me. Much like the “believe women” slogan during the #metoo movement, my default position is to believe my upset users, not to side with the person bullying them. That’s just how we roll at dbzer0 and I’m not gonna apologize for it.

      So a seven month campaign of falsely calling me a transphobe and Zionist is okay, but downvoting someone is harassment?

      Wew. You aren’t even trying to pretend to have any standards, are you?

      I mean, what’s the difference between your position here and something like, “Harvey Weinstein has made lots of great movies and nobody else has complained about him, so that woman must be lying”? There is no difference. PJ is just busy trying to launder his bruised reputation imo, and you are helping him with that project.

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