Its a shame because they’re prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don’t understand the point of targeting a person you don’t like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don’t like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)

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    Yes, I was pointing out your hypocrisy, the one that you’re still very clearly showing, where you use the same things that you’re poking at me with, that you just protected PJ for doing.

    Well, it’s not imagined if he’s getting, you know, banned for it. And there’s a lot of us here to corroborate how much of a “fun guy” he’s been.

    I never claimed I was anti-political, I only claimed that PJ has a propensity to attack people. I will continue to argue with somebody until I feel like my point is across, and if you continue to comment, so will I.

    I don’t care about his viewpoint. He’s more than allowed to have his viewpoint. He is allowed to advocate for harm reduction. He doesn’t post sources to anything that he claims, he won’t back up anything that he’s talking about, he just gets nasty. I don’t get nasty until you’re nasty first. I give what I get.

    If he would, you know, maybe respond with well meaning comment talking about it in a debating fashion, and then let it go when it’s clear people aren’t going to agree, you would have a point, but that’s not what he does, and that’s not how he argues.

    For instance, I happen to know quite a lot about October 7th and Hamas, and so he’s claiming that there was a ton of sexual violence done by Hamas but when the UN investigated it, they did not find systematic evidence of sexual violence, nor did Israel work with them, which is unusual. Not only that, the report he references is one that has been discredited as a source of statistics for sexual violence on October 7th. When I point out that in other similar situations like what happened in Rwanda or in Syria that they were able to track individual people the majority of the time with less surveillance I get called names for daring to ask these questions.

    That’s the epitome of the way your boy debates.

    He claims there’s a Russian genocide. I point out that the ICJ did not find convincing evidence that Russia was committing a genocide in Ukraine where they did find some semblance of that in Palestine. He immediately just tells me I’m parroting Russian propaganda and that I’m a Nazi. I asked for a source and he says that I’m sealioing.

    Believe what you want, but this guy is not good news, he does not argue in good faith, and while he may have people’s best interests at heart, he’s certainly not winning any hearts.

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      Yes, I was pointing out your hypocrisy, the one that you’re still very clearly showing, where you use the same things that you’re poking at me with, that you just protected PJ for doing.

      What?

      This whole conversation is turning very stupid. Talking about politics is great. Insulting other people directly or making up things they didn’t do is not. That’s true on all sides, in my opinion.

      Me pointing out your hypocrisy in suddenly freaking out about PJ talking about politics and that meaning he’s an always-online weirdo doesn’t mean all of a sudden I am being hypocritical about it.

      Honestly, I just don’t feel like being in this conversation any more, it feels like you have more energy to try to “win” it and care more about it than I do. I said what I had to say.

      He claims there’s a Russian genocide. I point out that the ICJ did not find convincing evidence that Russia was committing a genocide in Ukraine where they did find some semblance of that in Palestine. He immediately just tells me I’m parroting Russian propaganda and that I’m a Nazi. I asked for a source and he says that I’m sealioing.

      I can literally look down the thread and see the sources he’s citing to you. They are pretty comprehensive. I tried to get involved in the same conversation with you, I think I got bored of the conversation before my comment posted, all I can say is that it’s completely stupid (and absolutely on-brand for lemmy.ml) to claim that someone who says there IS genocide in Ukraine somehow means they’re Zionist or pro-Western, or saying there is NOT genocide in Gaza. Putin’s ICC warrant literally listed child deportation as the primary crime. There is also genocide in Gaza, it’s a lot more unambiguous there than in Ukraine, but they are both happening.

      Also:

      https://lemmy.world/search?q=sealioning&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=1252800&page=1&sort=TopAll

      https://lemmy.world/search?q=sealion&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=1252800&page=1&sort=TopAll

      https://lemmy.world/post/33270073/18378824

      HOLY God

      All I can picture is two people in a Will Farrel movie or something just aggressively slap-fighting overhand at each other while leaning their faces away and grimacing. I think I wasted time taking you seriously and trying to respond to what you were saying lol.

      If PJ wants to talk with you, he’s welcome to it, I think I’ve said as much as I plan to at this point.

      • @dastanktal@lemmy.ml
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        This whole conversation is turning very stupid

        Yes it is.

        Unfortunately for me your about what I expected. Still fun to talk though.