Its a shame because they’re prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don’t understand the point of targeting a person you don’t like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don’t like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)
“It’s literally not what I said, but to be charitable to you…”
Yes, very charitable to suggest that somewhere unspecified on Wikipedia your source was quoted after previously implying that it was on “The Wikipedia article” that was linked and being discussed.
The source is quoted as nothing but a contemporary account, and the entire talk page is about what an awful state the article is in. But you keep licking those literal Stalinist boots. Do they taste like the blood of Crimean Tatars, or Poles?
This you, fascist?
For the love of god, learn what fascism is already, or withdraw from the sphere of political discourse.
At what point in the past did your political consciousness become completely ossified and unimpeachable, Archie Bunker?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
Look familiar, fascist?
Like I said, fossilized. Eco’s article and Arendt’s book are the alpha and omega of fascism—no more need be read or considered.
You’re literally in the Stalin era, one day after the break of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Yet the video & articles I suggested are from the 21st century.
Parenti is a hack whose scholarship is not just sloppy but outright atrocious; unsurprising, though, that you would cite a literal genocide denier as your source.
Rockhill is a fucking lunatic who thinks Zizek is a CIA plant.
As is Chomsky[1][2].
I don’t know why “genocide denial” is your go-to, because I’m sure you’d vociferously deny this one, so you know that not every such accusation is necessarily true.
Rockhill doesn’t actually say that, though neither he nor I would be surprised if he is. Plant or not, Žižek is an unserious grifter, a clown, a radical recuperator. I’m not surprised that you’d tacitly defend him; you two seem to have a lot in common. It’s a lucrative grift; maybe you should look into that.
I legitimately do feel a bit bad for you, you’re getting called out on a thread here and it looks like everyone is dogpiling on you, but being this abrasive and bad-faith is only making it worse. I really don’t think my point of Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan being mentioned on an adjacent page as a source is a bad thing on my part, and you’re right, the Cold War has resulted in tons of blurry sources that can make it difficult to tell what’s real and what isn’t.
Helpfully, the Soviet archives were opened, and contemporary historians have been able to make great progress on clarifying a lot of debated topics, and Pat Sloan’s account has survived that and been affirmed.
I don’t really think you’re mean, per se, just crashing out and lashing out. I don’t take any of your insults seriously, just like I wouldn’t a Flat Earther. You haven’t presented any new information, and keep resorting to calling a Marxist a “fascist.” It’s historically and categorically false to lump Marxism in with fascism, it obscures the fundamental ties to capitalism fascism has, and the history of anticommunism in every existing fascist movement.
Again, I recommend taking a break.
“I don’t think making a false claim is a bad thing on my part”
Yes, that is very apparent.
Jesus fucking Christ, have you read no scholarly works in the past thirty fucking years? The lack of Soviet democracy was overwhelmingly affirmed by internal documents, not disproven, especially in the Stalinist era. But like the Holodomor and the genocide of the Poles and Crimean Tatars, you deny that too.
“My magic word protects me”
Calling yourself a Marxist and rejecting everything Marx stood for means jack fucking shit.
I would recommend not simping for a genocidal fascist state, but we both know you won’t stop that.
In normal discussions, simple mistakes like confusing the Wikipedia page for “Elections in the Soviet Union” with the page for “Soviet Democracy” merits some grace, especially because I have been exceedingly patient with you. Again, I’m only being patient with you because I understand that you feel caught out and alone, that’s why you’re jumping for screengrabs for the drama communities you mod while talking to 3-5 people at the same time. It isn’t really a healthy thing to do.
As for the “lack of democracy,” no, it’s definitely been affirmed as a somewhat flawed, but working democratic system. The Soviet Union was the world’s first socialist state, it broke new ground and stumbled along the way, but that doesn’t make it “fascist” or those who supported it so. Same with trying to pile on a bunch of new topics to discuss, hoping one of them lands. It’s desparate.
I don’t see how I reject everything Marx stood for. You’ve admitted to not being a Marxist yourself, what makes you an authority on Marxism? My opinions are largely in line with the overwhelming majority of Marxists, I’m a Marxist-Leninist that holds a fairly standard Marxist-Leninist view.
You keep misusing the word “fascist” and genocide. You have no sources but Wikipedia links, and you’ve again been at this for hours. For your sake I’m disengaging here, this just isn’t worth it for anyone, and I recommend you do so as well. You obviously don’t care about anything I have to say, and I don’t really take your insults seriously as I know they hold no water, so that’s it.
The overwhelming consensus since the fall of the SovUnion by academics has been a rejection of the idea that the Soviet Union was in any way democratic even by socialist academics. But tankies online still pass around the sacred texts from 1938; they could never be wrong!
Basic fucking literacy?
This may be shocking, but the Soviet Union fell 30 years ago.