It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

  • Blaze (he/him) English
    9•2 days ago

    It’s like all the issues all of a sudden came out at once. The Dragonfucker argument is back, someone has been following me around all day and hectoring me on random topics and just told me UniversalMonk did nothing wrong, they all of a sudden hate PugJesus with a hundreds-of-comments-wild-personal-attacks passion, the “anti-AI troll” banning random people mod is now posting tankie stuff… it’s fuckin’ nuts. It came out of nowhere.

    At least the drag and PugJesus issues are related, as that’s why PJ got banned on Blahaj: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39039162

    I pointed this out to you in the !fediverselore@lemmy.ca thread and you acknowledged it: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20253309

    Not sure why you’re saying it’s coming out of nowhere when you are aware of that link.

    People aren’t following you around, they reply to comments you make about the whole situation

    The “anti-AI troll” come up due to this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20270123

    • @PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6•2 days ago

      At least the drag and PugJesus issues are related, as PugJesus tried to move the !196 community after getting banned: https://feddit.org/post/7025680/4263481

      You have repeatedly said this despite the fact that I had nothing to do with moving the 196 comm. I don’t know why the fuck you keep spreading this lie despite the fact that I’ve corrected you on it several times already.

      • Blaze (he/him) English
        6•2 days ago

        I had a quick look

        Man, you definitely were running some major hostility towards world at one point. I’ll concede that the comment was probably overstating the point, and definitely unnecessarily hostile, but it also wasn’t unprovoked.

        I’m not going to go that route again

    • PhilipTheBucketEnglish
      3•2 days ago

      Not sure why you’re saying it’s coming out of nowhere when you are aware of that link.

      I didn’t say the issues were unrelated, I just said the stupidest Lemmy argument (among some stiff competition) was back and getting debated to death again for some fuckin’ reason, along with some other stupid arguments. What the fuckin’ reason was wasn’t part of what I was trying to say.

      People aren’t following you around, they reply to comments you make about the whole situation

      @eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com became very upset that an admin (he kept emphasizing that, like I need to treat someone different because they’re an admin, IDK, bow and scrape? It was nothing related to admin duties, they were just weighing in in a massive whiny slapfight (on both sides)) had replied to my comment and I hadn’t responded to them. One, two. I explained myself, they didn’t like the explanation, and they started jumping into among other places a 4-day-old thread to try to continue the argument.

      Like I said in that reply, I saw absolutely no point in getting in a new slapfight about it, told them so, and they really didn’t like that explanation and tried to start the slapfight anyway in multiple threads (sort of accusing me of doing something wrong by not wanting to? IDK, it’s weird, check it out.)

      Anyway, that’s weird, following me into random additional old threads to try to continue the argument I’d already explicitly told them I wasn’t interested in is what I referred to as “following me around.”

      • Blaze (he/him) English
        2•2 days ago

        I’ve been following things from afar.

        they started jumping into among other places a 4-day-old thread to try to continue the argument.

        People who use “New comments” are going to see new comments posted, whatever old the threads are. I use that filter, and I regularly comment on weeks old threads to reply to someone.

        Eugene’s comments on the 4-days old thread came up when you mentioned that UM was involved (whey they were not, and you know I’m not a fan of UM), and it was made by another user: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344640/20291854

        he kept emphasizing that, like I need to treat someone different because they’re an admin, IDK, bow and scrape?

        The context is

        • you making statements such as

        Good fuckin’ God man. dbzer0, we love you, quit trippin’. Just relax. Not everyone you don’t like or agree with is “abusive.” ( https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49571446/20248829 )

        If you accuse an instance of power tripping, be ready to answer when they reply, otherwise it just seems to be arguing in bad faith.

        • PhilipTheBucketEnglish
          3•2 days ago

          People who use “New comments” are going to see new comments posted, whatever old the threads are. I use that filter, and I regularly comment on weeks old threads to reply to someone.

          Reply to them on the same topic you’ve been talking with them about in some other thread, which they told you they weren’t interested in discussing further, angry that they’re not giving you responses you think you deserve back in the original thread? If so, I think you should stop doing that, however it is that you’re finding their messages in other threads.

          If you accuse an instance of power tripping, be ready to answer when they reply, otherwise it just seems to be arguing in bad faith.

          I mean maybe that’s fair. The whole message was so hostile and dishonest that I couldn’t really see any point to giving a reply though. Also, like I said at the time, PugJesus already gave a pretty detailed reply that more or less mirrored what I would want to say about it (which Unruffled of course did not respond to.) Also, I’d already covered my POV on it to death in other comments by that point.

          Excerpts of the message I didn’t reply to:

          he’s an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats to defeat Donald Trump. There is plenty of evidence for all of those things.

          PJ has a bad temper, and that he’s been losing his shit more and more lately. He even states as such in his profile. While I do feel empathy for the fact he lives in chronic pain

          I mean, what’s the difference between your position here and something like, “Harvey Weinstein has made lots of great movies and nobody else has complained about him, so that woman must be lying”? There is no difference.

          What the fuck am I supposed to do with that stuff lol

          When db0 came in here and talked about the exact same issue, but in a non-frothing manner, I had a normal conversation with them. I don’t agree with the points they raised, and they presumably think I’m wrong as hell, but it’s fine, we can just talk. Because they didn’t accuse me of protecting any sexual predators or call anyone cock suckers, we got to hash it out, which is how it’s supposed to work. I did the same with Ada over in that thread; I don’t agree with her but I told her directly what the issue I was trying to communicate was, and we got to talk about it, there’s no particular bad blood (at least not from my side), it’s just a conversation.

          I don’t feel though like I need to engage in every conversation no matter what kind of unhinged nonsense is coming at me from the other side, or how low the probability of it ever going anywhere, whatever little badge is attached to the person’s username.

          • Blaze (he/him) English
            3•2 days ago

            PugJesus already gave a pretty detailed reply that more or less mirrored what I would want to say about it (which Unruffled of course did not respond to.)

            Nobody on dbzer0 saw that reply, and even less could respond to it as he’s banned from the instance.

            Maybe that’s the piece missing to solve that matter.