It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.
It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.
Ye, we obviously can have some acerbic users as well, can’t avoid it 12k registrations. But if someone is too toxic consistently, we tend to get rid of them. Still doesn’t make the instance tankie thought 😅
Oh for sure. I know I can be a handful myself, as can pug. Generally on the whole though. It’s not been the experience I’ve had with the instance. But it has been something that oddly has come up a number of times lately. Quite honestly I think current events are really testing and breaking a lot of people.
Sadly the horrors are only getting started. Things are going to get so much worse.
Yes people seem to forget that the world is going to hell in a hsndbasket, naturally a lot of people are having way less patience than before
Which is unfortunately the time that it’s needed most.
What if they are admins that seem to follow someone or at least constantly be needlessly rude and aggressive towards and lie about a certain individual?
(Not to make any claims or anything about dbzer0 being tankie)
Anyone solid in our instance can request an admin recall with a vote
So, if there is a feedback loop where if dbzer0 users are ultimately okay with an admin harassing people, then the toxicity can persist? As long as they can convince others with lies then the admin can get away with it? That “tend to” in my quote seems to be doing some real heavy lifting, from my perspective.
You’d prefer that one person decide by fiat what’s OK or not? I don’t know about you but I find democracy superior to dictatorship, even when nominally “benevolent” .
So, obvious harassment and toxicity needs to be put to a vote for any action to be taken? Yeah, I’m going to have to disagree on that one.
Why not post on !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org if you want to report such abuse on a place where db0 admins can’t intervene?
Since sdf is federated with dbzer0, then how is it safe from the dbzer0 mob? As you can see, lemmy.world/support was not safe either.
I really just want them all to leave me alone.
I meant that they can’t remove the post or comments, not that they can’t comment
theres always the superior alternative !YPTBcirclejerk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Clearly, it’s not “obvious” at all. Again, we anarchists tend to prefer democracy over dictatorship.
I wasn’t necessarily referring only to the specific circumstance. I was also pointing out the flaw in the logic of “only democracy”.
Again, my point was that a common feedback loop and/or an alignment of a person’s toxicity can easily protect someone from justice. Similar to what is happening to the US political parties, particularly the Republican party. Plenty of people align and agree with what is happening and thus it is allowed to continue and even escalate.
As long as someone can paint a better picture and have a following to support then, then a person can get away with seemingly anything at dbzer0. Just gotta get those votes from the people willing and able to participate during the voting period.
What’s your superior alternative?
For people reading this
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49724031/20307838
Also:
https://lemmy.world/comment/18061774
I’m not sure that comment serves you the most, but sure
Maybe not, depending on if people already made up their mind to side with that person or against me, then yeah it won’t serve me much.
They were very clearly being needlessly antagonistic and accusatory towards someone who was trying to defend others being harassed and help get rid of a horribly toxic user.
The start of it makes no sense, either. Why would I have known at all about some other alts being banned from dbzer0 when I had blocked the instance a long time ago? No one brought that up at all nor does it matter in the context of the issue at hand.
Honestly, if that’s not obvious and someone thinks that comment is fine, then that is a perfect example of why I’m starting to hate Lemmy.
No, you don’t get rid of them. They become mods of multiple communities.
Nobody is accusing the instance of being literal tankies, they are pointing out that the behavior is consistent with common tankie behavior.
Feel free to make a ytpb post about it and we can see what people think about such mods
There are multiple posts there already about the topic including the most popular one that was locked because the mods kept failing to understand what anyone was saying.
If you want to know what people think, check out the up to down vote ratio in the comments. Feel free to accuse .world of brigading like those mods or whatever other stupid excuse based on a lack of understanding how instance populations work.
I was banned because Unruffled is a petty jerk, so I won’t be posting another thread about the same topic of how petty and toxic a small group of prolific mods of dbzer0 communities are. Pointing that out is clearly not allowed in yptb.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog/961853
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48662871
Holy FUCK lol
I knew things were getting weird but I had no idea. I can’t even begin to unpack all the layers of this. There’s too much.
“How dare you speak ill of the people above you, disagree with their decisions and explain why even, on this YPTB sub. That is classed as ‘pissy’ and ‘shitty’ and will earn a perma ban for those reasons. Meanwhile, if you have a grudge against a ‘turbolib’, here are some handy slurs you might want to use…”
I still also can’t fathom the apparently successful effort to start to split people into “pro AI” and “anti AI” camps.
That’s not what the comments are but okay. Keep telling that to yourself.
I was mostly talking about the modlog, check out the bans for SoftestSapphic and snoogums for example.
Sapphic being unkind with her transphobia that came up unrelated because she wanted to?
I’ll check snoogums later
Sapphic is trans.
She literally was making a pretty simple and coherent point:
Comment removed. “Off topic and pissy.” And then, ban. And you’re so deep in the db0-hole that you have fully absorbed the idea “disagreeing with db0 mods on their handling or defense of a trans issue = transphobia,” and don’t blink an eye or notice a problem with that whole sequence of events. Karl Rove would be proud.
I genuinely think you probably look at that and think “Yep, that makes perfect sense, that trans person is super transphobic, which I’m definitely qualified to judge her on and ban her for, as is db0, yep, get her the fuck out of here before she fucks up our handling of trans issues by giving input to them.” Meanwhile, in reality-land, it is fairly obvious that the dbzer0 admins are just kind of doing whatever they want, and reaching for random Lemmy-friendly labels to slap on their reasons, which you will then not question for some reason.
It’s not that deep, it’s just people getting banned over downvoting in communities they don’t contribute to. A debate even older than Lemmy
Yeah, I just don’t get why it’s getting so heated lately https://lemmy.world/post/31072292/17587686
I was talking about the bans for SoftestSapphic and snoogums among others. Banning people for downvoting stuff from communities they “don’t contribute to” is also stupid, that’s literally how voting is supposed to work: To surface content people want to see and reduce content people object to. It’s honestly not a real great system but deciding that anyone who downvotes your community’s content is obviously an asshole and deserves to be disabled from being able to do that, so that your content will be protected against people who don’t like it using the Lemmy features which are designed for the content they don’t like, is some only-child “you can’t hit me I’m a ghost” fuckin’ nonsense too.
You probably are not aware, but that user is known to be toxic. A lot of the mod action reasons are “be respectful” or “civility”
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=18071443
They’re aware, they just don’t care because it doesn’t fit their narrative.
Sure, buddy.
I’m sorry, are you unable to count votes to see what people think about your mods?
We really don’t use votes for yptb. We have specific keywords if one wants to tally. Likewise actual voting happens in our governance comm, and our actual users seem to be onboard with what we’ve been doing consistently
Ah yes, the opinions of the people who already agree with you are the only ones that matter. No need for self reflecfion!
I’ve self reflected and discovered I’ve done nothing wrong