It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

    • @goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
      1•1 day ago

      Can you go into detail about what ‘Israel greatly exaggerates’ means exactly?

      Since according to that article, it seems to imply that it was an individual’s mistake as opposed to Israel.

      Otmazgin said it has been difficult to rein Landau in, both because he vehemently believes in his version and because there is no way to stop journalists from engaging with him directly. Both Otmazgin and Bukjin attributed Landau’s continued belief in the false account to him having been deeply traumatized by what he saw in the aftermath of Oct. 7.

      Furthermore, it was Israeli government agencies that disputed the claims made by these two individuals. So, I don’t see how Israel can greatly exaggerate the claims while also disputing them – it just doesn’t make sense.

      • snooggumsEnglish
        3•1 day ago

        You don’t see how they could because you don’t understand propaganda. By promoting the fictional stories, including the false accounts of rape and the baby in the oven and other blatantly false stories they can fall back on the ones that did happen, but the false stories will stick in people’s minds. How long has the old ‘human shields’ chestnut been used to excuse civlian deaths in hospitals and homes of Palestians? How many times has Israel blamed someone else when they shoot into crowds trying to get food? The lies stuck with the general population as long as they are able to get out first as kong as there is one true case that ends up proving the lies could possibly be plausible.

        People remember what they want to remember, including made up exaggerations intended to dehumanize others of things that actually happened.

          • snooggumsEnglish
            2•1 day ago

            Yes, because I’m not a fucking idiot. Everyone does propaganda, and some are worse than others because they dehumanize instead of shining a light on something and some are more effective than others.

            That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t point out these instances of it being used and why it is harmful in the context being discussed.

              • snooggumsEnglish
                2•1 day ago

                Of course I have fallen for at least some propaganda at various points in time, because I’m not a fucking idiot and realize that it works.

                What is your end goal here?

                • @goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
                  0•16 hours ago

                  Since I think you have fallen for some of it. Can you go into detail about the ‘Israel shooting into crowds trying to get food’?