Screenshot of this question was making the rounds last week. But this article covers testing against all the well-known models out there.

Also includes outtakes on the ‘reasoning’ models.

  • FaceDeer
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    -13 months ago

    Yeah, “AI is getting pretty good” is a very unpopular opinion in these parts. Popularity doesn’t change the results though.

      • @MangoCats@feddit.it
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        03 months ago

        It’s overhyped in many areas, but it is undeniably improving. The real question is: will it “snowball” by improving itself in a positive feedback loop? If it does, how much snow covered slope is in front of it for it to roll down?

          • @kescusay@lemmy.world
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            43 months ago

            It’s already happening. GPT 5.2 is noticeably worse than previous versions.

            It’s called model collapse.

            • Zos_Kia
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              13 months ago

              To clarify : model collapse is a hypothetical phenomenon that has only been observed in toy models under extreme circumstances. This is not related in any way to what is happening at OpenAI.

              OpenAI made a bunch of choices in their product design which basically boil down to “what if we used a cheaper, dumber model to reply to you once in a while”.

                • Zos_Kia
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                  13 months ago

                  I’m sorry but no, models are definitely not collapsing. They still have a million issues and are subject to a variety of local optima, but they are not collapsing in any way. It is not known whether this can even happen in large models, and if it can it would require months of active effort to generate the toxic data and fine-tune models on that data. Nobody is gonna spend that kind of money to shoot themselves in the foot.

                  • @kescusay@lemmy.world
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                    03 months ago

                    Then why are newer versions of the major models performing so poorly? For instance, GPT 5.2 is definitely not an improvement over 4.5. What’s the root cause?

              • @MangoCats@feddit.it
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                13 months ago

                I feel that a lot of what is improving in the recent batch of model releases is the vetting of their training data - basically the opposite of model collapse.

                Nothing requires an LLM to train on the entire internet.

        • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          03 months ago

          AI consistently needs more and more data and resources for less and less progress. Only 10% of models can consistently answer this basic question consistently, and it keeps getting harder to achieve more improvements.

      • FaceDeer
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        03 months ago

        And yet the best models outdid humans at this “car wash test.” Humans got it right only 71.5% of the time.

        • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          13 months ago

          That 71.5% is still a higher success rate than 48 out of 53 models tested. Only the five 10/10 models and the two 8/10 models outperform the average human. Everything below GPT-5 performs worse than 10,000 people given two buttons and no time to think.