• @wahming
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    61 year ago

    Did you miss the other commentors explaining why that’s the case? I personally don’t do that, but I can understand why others do. As usual, blame the politicians

    • Flying Squid
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      -61 year ago

      No, I did not miss all the other commenters blaming Jews for antisemitism.

      • @wahming
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        61 year ago

        How is that even anti semitic? They’re pointing out an action that major Jewish organisations are undeniably doing. You don’t get to play the antisemitic card for honest criticism. That’s exactly the sort of BS Israel is pulling that makes everybody annoyed at them.

        • Flying Squid
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          -51 year ago

          It’s antisemitic because I have to justify myself as a Jew because people like them know this organization exists. As I have said multiple times- I have to justify that I am not a bad person because of my ancestry. Regularly. And you’re saying that non-Jews bear no fault there. Fucking bullshit.

          • @wahming
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            Antisemitism is hatred of Jews. People assuming that you’re connected with Israel is not antisemitism, you’re just diluting the word.

            Do you realise that your response is exactly what the groups are hoping for when they’re sowing their ‘Jews = Israel’ propaganda? They’re defining your identity to the world, and by getting upset at the world for accepting that propaganda, you’ve allowed the organisations to drive a wedge between you and non-Jews. As a Chinese, I experience something similar with China. I can understand your feelings of annoyance. But you’ve got to understand that you’re falling for the plans of the politicians when you respond in the way you are now.

            • Flying Squid
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              -41 year ago

              I disagree that antisemitism is hatred. Antisemitism is the othering of Jews. People who say things like Jews are all rich are being antisemitic. Because it’s a lie and a bigoted one. People who say anything about Jews as a universal truth are being antisemitic because there are no universal commonalities amongst Jews. But people don’t care about that. They don’t even care if you’re an observant Jew. I’ve had people, completely innocently, ask me why Jews are in charge of Hollywood. They don’t mean it in a hateful way. It’s still antisemitic.

              If someone asks a black person why black people are such good dancers, they aren’t being hateful, but they are being racist.

              So I may be falling for politicians, but I do not agree with your definition of antisemitism.

              • @wahming
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                51 year ago

                Fair enough, I agree with you on the antisemitism point. You probably still want to take a long moment to think about the root cause of why this is happening and what they hope to gain from it.

                • Flying Squid
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                  -21 year ago

                  But you said Germans. That is part of my point. Jews are not Israelis. And you are equating Jews with being the same as a nation. This is exactly why I am forced to justify that I am not a bad person just because I’m a Jew.

                  • @gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world
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                    51 year ago

                    There doesn’t need to be an equivalency between nationality and religion, it’s simple demographics. When you make your country an ethno-religous state the lines between both get blurred and that’s what Israel wants.

                    Would you agree more Germans than non-Germans supported the Holocaust outside of Germany? Would you agree more Jewish people than non-Jewish people support Zionism outside of Israel?